Cwmbran school failing pupils - latest inspection

Free Press Series: ‘BITTERLY DISAPPOINTING’: Llantarnam head teacher David Bright commenting on the latest Estyn report ‘BITTERLY DISAPPOINTING’: Llantarnam head teacher David Bright commenting on the latest Estyn report

A CWMBRAN school is failing its pupils, its latest inspection has found.

Llantarnam School has been placed into special measures after assessors Estyn deemed both its current performance and prospects unsatisfactory.

A report out yesterday said the performance of pupils sitting GCSE and equivalent qualifications is significantly lower than that of similar schools and pupils do not make enough progress in literacy and learning skills.

Sixty five per cent of students got five or more GCSE’s at A* to C grade – the Welsh average is 65.4 per cent.

But the report said the behaviour, attitude to learning and social skills of the majority of pupils is poor and that too many teachers did not know how to manage bad behaviour properly.

The assessment of pupils’ work was also found to be inconsistent, which meant pupils did not have a clear understanding of how to improve.

Around eight per cent of youngsters who left the 1,310 - pupil school in 2011 are not in education, employment or training, which is higher than the Welsh average of 4.4 per cent and the local authority average of 6.7 per cent, the report says.

It found that the school had reported increasing incidents of bullying. Half of pupils said staff did not deal with the issue well enough.

A minority of youngsters were found to smoke in the school grounds and, though attendance had improved in the past year, a few youngsters still arrived late for lessons.

The school’s prospects for improving were also deemed unsatisfactory because plans to address issues in a number of areas were not well developed.

Senior leadership roles and responsibilities were not defined and strategies to manage social skills and pupil behaviour were inefficient.

Only a minority of lessons were planned well. The majority lacked pace and did not give pupils opportunity to develop thinking skills.

The school must now draw up an action plan. Estyn inspectors will continue to monitor the school each term until it has improved.

Torfaen’s executive member for children and young people, Cllr Mary Barnett, said: “The full report is now published but the initial feedback from inspectors was damning and required us to take immediate action.

“We met the head teacher and governing body this afternoon and listened carefully to their views on addressing standards of achievement.

“However difficult, pupils must always be our priority and a swift response with far-reaching actions is required to return this school to where it should be.

“The council provided the school with extra resources which helped the school achieve vastly improved results in English andMaths.

“We will work with the school to produce a detailed action plan to which they will be held accountable and from which we can consider any further action needed.”

Head: ‘We’ve started improvements’

IN A statement on the school’s website, head teacher David Bright described the result as “bitterly disappointing”.

He said: “We accept the recommendations and have taken immediate action; however, we believe some very general judgements are unfair.

“Since the last inspection, the school’s performance has improved at A-level and has shown significant improvement at Key Stage 3 and GCSE in 2012 (specifically in the core areas of English, mathematics and science). Such improvements are the result of better teaching than the inspectors witnessed in September, but I accept the inspectors saw us a long way from our best.

“With the support of the council and the education achievement service (EAS), we have already started making necessary improvements.

Specific issues such as health and safety, marking and behaviour were addressed immediately and these, together with proposals for a restructured school leadership team, will go to governors this week for approval.”

Mr Bright said an action plan for improvement was already being drawn up and the school would work with the council and EAS to demonstrate progress when Estyn re-visit next term.

A meeting will be arranged for parents to ask questions and voice any concerns, while details of the new procedures for improving behaviour will follow later this week, he said.

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12:35pm Wed 21 Nov 12

james jackson says...

Teachers are on a hiding to nothing in these days of no discipline in schools. Their hands are tied and there is too much "****-footing" around where children are concerned.
Children are children. They do as they're told, until they leave school.
However, school can be very boring for many youngsters.
The slipping behind English schools is not good for Welsh pupils either, but what does the WAG do? Well. it thinks up another little scheme to "improve" standards and to take control of schools away from local authorities.
People in education are heartily sick of the interference in schools, especially when the results are poor. Discipline shouldn't be something that schools have to enforce. It should come from the home, but of course there are now so many broken homes, with no father figure, or splits through divorce, that one asks, where will discipline come from?
Children in the 21c are too indulged and are treated like adults when they're merely little children. They are not allowed a childhood; they are sexualised from an early age; they are bullied by thugs in and out of school and we expect teachers (mere mortals) to have the answer to every problem.
It is sad that Llantarnam is now placed in special measures, but it's not the fault of the staff, who work with what they have.
Maybe the deterioration has something to do with the exodus of pupils to Newport High - which, we should remember, was pretty poor as Bettws High. Funny what a new school and a new ethos can do. Maybe Llantarnam should ask for a new building and then almost by magic, pupils will become model pupils; results will rise; behaviour will improve and everything's wonderful once more!!!!!!!
But the bottom line is: The Welsh government must do better.
Teachers are on a hiding to nothing in these days of no discipline in schools. Their hands are tied and there is too much "****-footing" around where children are concerned. Children are children. They do as they're told, until they leave school. However, school can be very boring for many youngsters. The slipping behind English schools is not good for Welsh pupils either, but what does the WAG do? Well. it thinks up another little scheme to "improve" standards and to take control of schools away from local authorities. People in education are heartily sick of the interference in schools, especially when the results are poor. Discipline shouldn't be something that schools have to enforce. It should come from the home, but of course there are now so many broken homes, with no father figure, or splits through divorce, that one asks, where will discipline come from? Children in the 21c are too indulged and are treated like adults when they're merely little children. They are not allowed a childhood; they are sexualised from an early age; they are bullied by thugs in and out of school and we expect teachers (mere mortals) to have the answer to every problem. It is sad that Llantarnam is now placed in special measures, but it's not the fault of the staff, who work with what they have. Maybe the deterioration has something to do with the exodus of pupils to Newport High - which, we should remember, was pretty poor as Bettws High. Funny what a new school and a new ethos can do. Maybe Llantarnam should ask for a new building and then almost by magic, pupils will become model pupils; results will rise; behaviour will improve and everything's wonderful once more!!!!!!! But the bottom line is: The Welsh government must do better. james jackson
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1:49pm Wed 21 Nov 12

Bill P says...

The short answer to this is better management.

A school can't have good learning outcomes until pupil behaviour is under control. If the senior managers in the school were effective they would have in place all sorts of strategies to ensure that disruptive pupils would be dealt with. Once the discipline is in order then other learning strategies come into play to ensure all pupils learn at an appropriate pace.

This school will not move on until the Governing Body grasp the nettle and make some tough decisions; the first of which should be to withdraw their support for a failing Head Teacher.
The short answer to this is better management. A school can't have good learning outcomes until pupil behaviour is under control. If the senior managers in the school were effective they would have in place all sorts of strategies to ensure that disruptive pupils would be dealt with. Once the discipline is in order then other learning strategies come into play to ensure all pupils learn at an appropriate pace. This school will not move on until the Governing Body grasp the nettle and make some tough decisions; the first of which should be to withdraw their support for a failing Head Teacher. Bill P
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2:15pm Wed 21 Nov 12

marchog says...

At not at all suprised that Llantarnam is in special measures - it is the most disorganised school that I know.

Every year confusions reigns:
timetables are not ready;
pupils not entered into the correct exams;
lessons replaced with group events.

My son did not recieve any maths homework in the 5 years her was being taught. (I had to help him)

There was also a significant number of teachers who didn't care. It's only through hard work and sheers bloody mindedness (and a couple of excellant teachers) that he has managed to succeed.
At not at all suprised that Llantarnam is in special measures - it is the most disorganised school that I know. Every year confusions reigns: timetables are not ready; pupils not entered into the correct exams; lessons replaced with group events. My son did not recieve any maths homework in the 5 years her was being taught. (I had to help him) There was also a significant number of teachers who didn't care. It's only through hard work and sheers bloody mindedness (and a couple of excellant teachers) that he has managed to succeed. marchog
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3:17pm Wed 21 Nov 12

lyndon666 says...

What on earth is wrong with Torfaen schools. Llantarnam is in special measures and the Head at Croesyceiliog has just "resigned" after three years of increasingly disastrous GCSE results.

Something wrong at the top, surely?
What on earth is wrong with Torfaen schools. Llantarnam is in special measures and the Head at Croesyceiliog has just "resigned" after three years of increasingly disastrous GCSE results. Something wrong at the top, surely? lyndon666
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3:39pm Wed 21 Nov 12

Bill P says...

I agree with lyndon666.

The Education Department within Torfaen CB is also struggling to meet Welsh Government education standards.

If the Education Department were up to scratch they would have seen this coming and supported the school to ensure the children got the best education.
I agree with lyndon666. The Education Department within Torfaen CB is also struggling to meet Welsh Government education standards. If the Education Department were up to scratch they would have seen this coming and supported the school to ensure the children got the best education. Bill P
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3:56pm Wed 21 Nov 12

lcu06rjt says...

I think there is more of an issue with the Primary Schools these students come from. My children go to Maindee Primary school and the head teacher raises the grades of the students so they look like they will perform better when they get to secondary school. This has been raised with the Govenors on plenty of occasions, and even with Torfaen council, but it seems the head teacher is in cahoots with them. The teachers are doing such a great job there, its a shame the education authority does not look into this.
I think there is more of an issue with the Primary Schools these students come from. My children go to Maindee Primary school and the head teacher raises the grades of the students so they look like they will perform better when they get to secondary school. This has been raised with the Govenors on plenty of occasions, and even with Torfaen council, but it seems the head teacher is in cahoots with them. The teachers are doing such a great job there, its a shame the education authority does not look into this. lcu06rjt
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5:01pm Wed 21 Nov 12

maryjj says...

I don't think there is any hard and fast answer. Standards are slipping throughout society not just schools. I visited Cwmbran on saturday for the first time in 4 months to listen to a boy aged approximately 12 years old telling a police officer to f*** off and what did the policeman do.....nothing! Hands are tied and too much PAPER work. I'm only 40 years old but remember having respect for parents, teachers, police etc etc. Thats rapidly diminishing. I believe that it starts in the home. Parents are primary educators but sadly people incapable of bringing up children are breeding like rabbits and filling society with an generation of people who don't give a hoot about anything and aspire to nothing.
Also, I believe that some teachers should not be teaching. They have no vocation to the role, they don't have enough knowledge and in some cases they are just as bad as the kids. I know someone who is almost qualified and i'm terrified he will end up teaching my children. She can't spell, she can't hold a conversation, she has the morals of an ally cat, and I believe that teachers should be dare I say it "better" than the pupils. They should be people for pupils to look up to and aspire to be like.
Also, for any great change to happen in schools the powers that be should stop the lunatics leading the asylum! That the managers as well as the kids.
I don't think there is any hard and fast answer. Standards are slipping throughout society not just schools. I visited Cwmbran on saturday for the first time in 4 months to listen to a boy aged approximately 12 years old telling a police officer to f*** off and what did the policeman do.....nothing! Hands are tied and too much PAPER work. I'm only 40 years old but remember having respect for parents, teachers, police etc etc. Thats rapidly diminishing. I believe that it starts in the home. Parents are primary educators but sadly people incapable of bringing up children are breeding like rabbits and filling society with an generation of people who don't give a hoot about anything and aspire to nothing. Also, I believe that some teachers should not be teaching. They have no vocation to the role, they don't have enough knowledge and in some cases they are just as bad as the kids. I know someone who is almost qualified and i'm terrified he will end up teaching my children. She can't spell, she can't hold a conversation, she has the morals of an ally cat, and I believe that teachers should be dare I say it "better" than the pupils. They should be people for pupils to look up to and aspire to be like. Also, for any great change to happen in schools the powers that be should stop the lunatics leading the asylum! That the managers as well as the kids. maryjj
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5:26pm Wed 21 Nov 12

lis76snel says...

im so glad these things have come to light ive recently taken my son out of the school. they completely failed him even though he has a statement of educational needs. he was bullied by the same child for 3 yrs they tried to make out it was all to do with my sons condition. they definitely have a bully problem.
im so glad these things have come to light ive recently taken my son out of the school. they completely failed him even though he has a statement of educational needs. he was bullied by the same child for 3 yrs they tried to make out it was all to do with my sons condition. they definitely have a bully problem. lis76snel
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1:18am Thu 22 Nov 12

cwmbrancarter says...

I went there from 1963--1967.
It was the same then as regards to education.
However with the likes of Harold Waters and Len constance,and Dave Pailey, at least there was Discipline.
I went there from 1963--1967. It was the same then as regards to education. However with the likes of Harold Waters and Len constance,and Dave Pailey, at least there was Discipline. cwmbrancarter
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8:43am Thu 22 Nov 12

coalpicker says...

Leighton Andrews put his finger on the spot,twenty plus education authorities,
fragmentation has been responsible for the decline.What he should have said
is that the disulution of the eight county councils and the implementation of the Welsh Assembly which after fifteen years of mis managment have placed our education at, or close to, the bottom
of the European league.
Leighton Andrews put his finger on the spot,twenty plus education authorities, fragmentation has been responsible for the decline.What he should have said is that the disulution of the eight county councils and the implementation of the Welsh Assembly which after fifteen years of mis managment have placed our education at, or close to, the bottom of the European league. coalpicker
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8:52am Thu 22 Nov 12

maryring says...

This school has been a problem for several years and failed both my children who have now since left the school. I raised issues and tried many times of the years to get problems with education issues addressed that were seriously affecting my children like no teachers, no work ready, no revision work, and even to points that couste work that was part of the GCSE and A LEVEL exams were never even finished as teachers and support staff not in school. When I finally got to meet mr Bright he acted gobsmacked of the issues but later sent me a letter to say it was the child problem and fault. I spoke to several teachers who praised my children's behaviour and the teachers expressed issues to the head themselves but no action taken. When teachers tell you they are appalled at the way the school in run themselves and are looking to get out of there ASAP you know that there something seriously wrong !!! At one point my son had no English teacher for the whole year in year 10 GCSE level and mr bright and other management advised that they were unable to recruit staff as teachers were reluctant to take up jobs at the school. My daughter during her A Levels had a teacher permanent on the sick and no cover provided. She needed certain grades to secure a university place and had to get the course works via other measures when the school should of been providing it !!! Shame on you Llantarnam school your have failed thousands of pupils and mr bright deserves to be sacked !!!!
This school has been a problem for several years and failed both my children who have now since left the school. I raised issues and tried many times of the years to get problems with education issues addressed that were seriously affecting my children like no teachers, no work ready, no revision work, and even to points that couste work that was part of the GCSE and A LEVEL exams were never even finished as teachers and support staff not in school. When I finally got to meet mr Bright he acted gobsmacked of the issues but later sent me a letter to say it was the child problem and fault. I spoke to several teachers who praised my children's behaviour and the teachers expressed issues to the head themselves but no action taken. When teachers tell you they are appalled at the way the school in run themselves and are looking to get out of there ASAP you know that there something seriously wrong !!! At one point my son had no English teacher for the whole year in year 10 GCSE level and mr bright and other management advised that they were unable to recruit staff as teachers were reluctant to take up jobs at the school. My daughter during her A Levels had a teacher permanent on the sick and no cover provided. She needed certain grades to secure a university place and had to get the course works via other measures when the school should of been providing it !!! Shame on you Llantarnam school your have failed thousands of pupils and mr bright deserves to be sacked !!!! maryring
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8:55am Thu 22 Nov 12

coalpicker says...

Further to my previous comment .The lunacy of Tony Blairs immigration and social engineering of the labour party has not helped, with over a hundred
languages now being spoken in the UK,
discipline a distant memory ,teachers ,even good teachers have no chance.
Further to my previous comment .The lunacy of Tony Blairs immigration and social engineering of the labour party has not helped, with over a hundred languages now being spoken in the UK, discipline a distant memory ,teachers ,even good teachers have no chance. coalpicker
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12:00pm Thu 22 Nov 12

spice15 says...

Well Estyn has just confirmed all the issues I have previously taken up with Mr Bright myself over the past few years with my two children. Homework was non-existant, classwork was never marked, so children never knew whether their work was correct or not.

Over the years this school seemed to concentrate on Humanities(which was a total waste of time) and of lately Welsh Bacc. If more time and energy was ploughed into the more academic subjects or the pupils chosen subjects, then pupils would be more enthusiatic and worked harder to their goals.

Too much emphasis was put on Welsh Bacc and if a pupil had no intention of going to Uni - then why could they not concentrate on their chosen subjects for the career choice they had chosen.

Children could not leave the school grounds for lunch - which is ridiculous as well, other schools had this freedom, everyone needs time out..If parents are happy with this then so be it, afterall school meals are appalling - I know I have worked in one!!
Well Estyn has just confirmed all the issues I have previously taken up with Mr Bright myself over the past few years with my two children. Homework was non-existant, classwork was never marked, so children never knew whether their work was correct or not. Over the years this school seemed to concentrate on Humanities(which was a total waste of time) and of lately Welsh Bacc. If more time and energy was ploughed into the more academic subjects or the pupils chosen subjects, then pupils would be more enthusiatic and worked harder to their goals. Too much emphasis was put on Welsh Bacc and if a pupil had no intention of going to Uni - then why could they not concentrate on their chosen subjects for the career choice they had chosen. Children could not leave the school grounds for lunch - which is ridiculous as well, other schools had this freedom, everyone needs time out..If parents are happy with this then so be it, afterall school meals are appalling - I know I have worked in one!! spice15
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12:00pm Thu 22 Nov 12

spice15 says...

Well Estyn has just confirmed all the issues I have previously taken up with Mr Bright myself over the past few years with my two children. Homework was non-existant, classwork was never marked, so children never knew whether their work was correct or not.

Over the years this school seemed to concentrate on Humanities(which was a total waste of time) and of lately Welsh Bacc. If more time and energy was ploughed into the more academic subjects or the pupils chosen subjects, then pupils would be more enthusiatic and worked harder to their goals.

Too much emphasis was put on Welsh Bacc and if a pupil had no intention of going to Uni - then why could they not concentrate on their chosen subjects for the career choice they had chosen.

Children could not leave the school grounds for lunch - which is ridiculous as well, other schools had this freedom, everyone needs time out..If parents are happy with this then so be it, afterall school meals are appalling - I know I have worked in one!!
Well Estyn has just confirmed all the issues I have previously taken up with Mr Bright myself over the past few years with my two children. Homework was non-existant, classwork was never marked, so children never knew whether their work was correct or not. Over the years this school seemed to concentrate on Humanities(which was a total waste of time) and of lately Welsh Bacc. If more time and energy was ploughed into the more academic subjects or the pupils chosen subjects, then pupils would be more enthusiatic and worked harder to their goals. Too much emphasis was put on Welsh Bacc and if a pupil had no intention of going to Uni - then why could they not concentrate on their chosen subjects for the career choice they had chosen. Children could not leave the school grounds for lunch - which is ridiculous as well, other schools had this freedom, everyone needs time out..If parents are happy with this then so be it, afterall school meals are appalling - I know I have worked in one!! spice15
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12:00pm Thu 22 Nov 12

spice15 says...

Well Estyn has just confirmed all the issues I have previously taken up with Mr Bright myself over the past few years with my two children. Homework was non-existant, classwork was never marked, so children never knew whether their work was correct or not.

Over the years this school seemed to concentrate on Humanities(which was a total waste of time) and of lately Welsh Bacc. If more time and energy was ploughed into the more academic subjects or the pupils chosen subjects, then pupils would be more enthusiatic and worked harder to their goals.

Too much emphasis was put on Welsh Bacc and if a pupil had no intention of going to Uni - then why could they not concentrate on their chosen subjects for the career choice they had chosen.

Children could not leave the school grounds for lunch - which is ridiculous as well, other schools had this freedom, everyone needs time out..If parents are happy with this then so be it, afterall school meals are appalling - I know I have worked in one!!
Well Estyn has just confirmed all the issues I have previously taken up with Mr Bright myself over the past few years with my two children. Homework was non-existant, classwork was never marked, so children never knew whether their work was correct or not. Over the years this school seemed to concentrate on Humanities(which was a total waste of time) and of lately Welsh Bacc. If more time and energy was ploughed into the more academic subjects or the pupils chosen subjects, then pupils would be more enthusiatic and worked harder to their goals. Too much emphasis was put on Welsh Bacc and if a pupil had no intention of going to Uni - then why could they not concentrate on their chosen subjects for the career choice they had chosen. Children could not leave the school grounds for lunch - which is ridiculous as well, other schools had this freedom, everyone needs time out..If parents are happy with this then so be it, afterall school meals are appalling - I know I have worked in one!! spice15
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12:00pm Thu 22 Nov 12

spice15 says...

Well Estyn has just confirmed all the issues I have previously taken up with Mr Bright myself over the past few years with my two children. Homework was non-existant, classwork was never marked, so children never knew whether their work was correct or not.

Over the years this school seemed to concentrate on Humanities(which was a total waste of time) and of lately Welsh Bacc. If more time and energy was ploughed into the more academic subjects or the pupils chosen subjects, then pupils would be more enthusiatic and worked harder to their goals.

Too much emphasis was put on Welsh Bacc and if a pupil had no intention of going to Uni - then why could they not concentrate on their chosen subjects for the career choice they had chosen.

Children could not leave the school grounds for lunch - which is ridiculous as well, other schools had this freedom, everyone needs time out..If parents are happy with this then so be it, afterall school meals are appalling - I know I have worked in one!!
Well Estyn has just confirmed all the issues I have previously taken up with Mr Bright myself over the past few years with my two children. Homework was non-existant, classwork was never marked, so children never knew whether their work was correct or not. Over the years this school seemed to concentrate on Humanities(which was a total waste of time) and of lately Welsh Bacc. If more time and energy was ploughed into the more academic subjects or the pupils chosen subjects, then pupils would be more enthusiatic and worked harder to their goals. Too much emphasis was put on Welsh Bacc and if a pupil had no intention of going to Uni - then why could they not concentrate on their chosen subjects for the career choice they had chosen. Children could not leave the school grounds for lunch - which is ridiculous as well, other schools had this freedom, everyone needs time out..If parents are happy with this then so be it, afterall school meals are appalling - I know I have worked in one!! spice15
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1:40pm Thu 22 Nov 12

bikersteve says...

It seems like little has changed at Llantarnam since I was a pupil back in the sixties. Bullying was rife then with little interest from the teachers to stop it. Smoking went on in the playground and disruption in class was not unusual.
And this was a time when the cane was in use.
I agree with others on here who say discipline begins at home, but unless you have parents with respect for others in the first place it is unlikely to be instilled in the children.
It seems like little has changed at Llantarnam since I was a pupil back in the sixties. Bullying was rife then with little interest from the teachers to stop it. Smoking went on in the playground and disruption in class was not unusual. And this was a time when the cane was in use. I agree with others on here who say discipline begins at home, but unless you have parents with respect for others in the first place it is unlikely to be instilled in the children. bikersteve
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7:05pm Thu 22 Nov 12

Np207yb says...

All the comments listed are fine and contribute to the debate. Regardless of who is to blame / at fault the responsibility for the failure rests in the hands of those that run the school. The senior leadership are responsible for the vision that a school has.

If that vision fails, then they are accountable. Period. After all the head will have been paid in excess of £70k per annul to run this school.

Talk of behaviour issues is rife in all schools and as Newport High has been mentioned, I'll bite. Behaviour is as bad as it was in the Bettws High School days - sure their is a thin vanieer of improvement, but scratch beneath the surface and constant low level disruption, poor staff morale and feelings of bullying (of staff by SLT) are common.

Sadly, it is almost impossible to remove those responsible as governors are often pawns of the head teacher and teachers are unwilling / scared to confront those in power.

Let's applaud Estyn, who have pointed out what parents, staff and teachers already knew and lets hope that other schools get the inspection they deserve. Unfortunately heads often think that they can manage the image of the school by constantly not admitting that things are happening.

Newport High - smoking - yes, appaling behaviour - yes, staff bullying by SLT - yes, improvement of grades by fudging exam results by using Btec - yes, no home work - yes.

On paper schools can be made to look improving by exam results and facts about exclusions etc - but stop and ask parents / kids and the reality is less easy to manage.

Living on the Bettws estate I can't wait for Newport High to be inspected - you think Llantarnam was a shock - at least it sounds like the Head is honest and not hiding from the issues.
All the comments listed are fine and contribute to the debate. Regardless of who is to blame / at fault the responsibility for the failure rests in the hands of those that run the school. The senior leadership are responsible for the vision that a school has. If that vision fails, then they are accountable. Period. After all the head will have been paid in excess of £70k per annul to run this school. Talk of behaviour issues is rife in all schools and as Newport High has been mentioned, I'll bite. Behaviour is as bad as it was in the Bettws High School days - sure their is a thin vanieer of improvement, but scratch beneath the surface and constant low level disruption, poor staff morale and feelings of bullying (of staff by SLT) are common. Sadly, it is almost impossible to remove those responsible as governors are often pawns of the head teacher and teachers are unwilling / scared to confront those in power. Let's applaud Estyn, who have pointed out what parents, staff and teachers already knew and lets hope that other schools get the inspection they deserve. Unfortunately heads often think that they can manage the image of the school by constantly not admitting that things are happening. Newport High - smoking - yes, appaling behaviour - yes, staff bullying by SLT - yes, improvement of grades by fudging exam results by using Btec - yes, no home work - yes. On paper schools can be made to look improving by exam results and facts about exclusions etc - but stop and ask parents / kids and the reality is less easy to manage. Living on the Bettws estate I can't wait for Newport High to be inspected - you think Llantarnam was a shock - at least it sounds like the Head is honest and not hiding from the issues. Np207yb
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8:50pm Thu 22 Nov 12

Ruby2esday says...

As a parent of kids who will go to a secondary school in Cwmbran, this is so worrying. Fairwater used to be the school with a bad reputation but I hear nothing but good from there these days. It is funny how the management of a school can have such a huge impact.

The LA needs to take responsibility. How does it come to this? Are there no Torfaen inspection procedures to ensure that schools do not come to this?
As a parent of kids who will go to a secondary school in Cwmbran, this is so worrying. Fairwater used to be the school with a bad reputation but I hear nothing but good from there these days. It is funny how the management of a school can have such a huge impact. The LA needs to take responsibility. How does it come to this? Are there no Torfaen inspection procedures to ensure that schools do not come to this? Ruby2esday
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10:18pm Thu 22 Nov 12

ironman22 says...

What would happen in private industry if someone was underperforming, or failing? They would surely be sacked. Mr Bright is lucky if he has the dignified option of resigning, rather than face the public humiliation of being sacked. Maybe this is something he should consider. In the however many years he has been at the school, how much has the local community paid to have him 'lead' the school- no doubt he is facing a comfortable retirement ( unlike much of the local community). It cannot be down to him alone, however. Yes, week leadership is damaging, however, those professionally close to him should surely also be held to account for this appalling failure i.e. the senior leadership team. They also, have been handsomely paid, for being incompetent. The school needs a thorough clear out- a new leadership team needs to be brought in, to raise morale amongst a disillusioned staff and to show some level of competence with leading a school. They need to remember, teaching and helping guide young people is an important role, and not one to be done without due care and attention. Bullying staff, while ignoring the poor behaviour of the students is surely a failure in his duty of care to the hundreds of students at the school. Mr Bright, and those around him, need to go.
What would happen in private industry if someone was underperforming, or failing? They would surely be sacked. Mr Bright is lucky if he has the dignified option of resigning, rather than face the public humiliation of being sacked. Maybe this is something he should consider. In the however many years he has been at the school, how much has the local community paid to have him 'lead' the school- no doubt he is facing a comfortable retirement ( unlike much of the local community). It cannot be down to him alone, however. Yes, week leadership is damaging, however, those professionally close to him should surely also be held to account for this appalling failure i.e. the senior leadership team. They also, have been handsomely paid, for being incompetent. The school needs a thorough clear out- a new leadership team needs to be brought in, to raise morale amongst a disillusioned staff and to show some level of competence with leading a school. They need to remember, teaching and helping guide young people is an important role, and not one to be done without due care and attention. Bullying staff, while ignoring the poor behaviour of the students is surely a failure in his duty of care to the hundreds of students at the school. Mr Bright, and those around him, need to go. ironman22
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8:44am Fri 23 Nov 12

spice15 says...

maryring wrote:
This school has been a problem for several years and failed both my children who have now since left the school. I raised issues and tried many times of the years to get problems with education issues addressed that were seriously affecting my children like no teachers, no work ready, no revision work, and even to points that couste work that was part of the GCSE and A LEVEL exams were never even finished as teachers and support staff not in school. When I finally got to meet mr Bright he acted gobsmacked of the issues but later sent me a letter to say it was the child problem and fault. I spoke to several teachers who praised my children's behaviour and the teachers expressed issues to the head themselves but no action taken. When teachers tell you they are appalled at the way the school in run themselves and are looking to get out of there ASAP you know that there something seriously wrong !!! At one point my son had no English teacher for the whole year in year 10 GCSE level and mr bright and other management advised that they were unable to recruit staff as teachers were reluctant to take up jobs at the school. My daughter during her A Levels had a teacher permanent on the sick and no cover provided. She needed certain grades to secure a university place and had to get the course works via other measures when the school should of been providing it !!! Shame on you Llantarnam school your have failed thousands of pupils and mr bright deserves to be sacked !!!!
I experienced the same with my son, teachers attendance appeared to be worse than the pupils themselves. I had extra private tutoring to help my son catch up and eventually get a grade no thanks to the school. Mr Bright has a lot to answer for and I believe resign and a whole restructure for the school should be put in place - although sadly a little to late.

A leaf should be taken out of Mr Constance, Mr Wilcox and Mr Cooper from the seventies, who run that school with a passion. Pupils respected their elders and discipline was always kept in place.
[quote][p][bold]maryring[/bold] wrote: This school has been a problem for several years and failed both my children who have now since left the school. I raised issues and tried many times of the years to get problems with education issues addressed that were seriously affecting my children like no teachers, no work ready, no revision work, and even to points that couste work that was part of the GCSE and A LEVEL exams were never even finished as teachers and support staff not in school. When I finally got to meet mr Bright he acted gobsmacked of the issues but later sent me a letter to say it was the child problem and fault. I spoke to several teachers who praised my children's behaviour and the teachers expressed issues to the head themselves but no action taken. When teachers tell you they are appalled at the way the school in run themselves and are looking to get out of there ASAP you know that there something seriously wrong !!! At one point my son had no English teacher for the whole year in year 10 GCSE level and mr bright and other management advised that they were unable to recruit staff as teachers were reluctant to take up jobs at the school. My daughter during her A Levels had a teacher permanent on the sick and no cover provided. She needed certain grades to secure a university place and had to get the course works via other measures when the school should of been providing it !!! Shame on you Llantarnam school your have failed thousands of pupils and mr bright deserves to be sacked !!!![/p][/quote]I experienced the same with my son, teachers attendance appeared to be worse than the pupils themselves. I had extra private tutoring to help my son catch up and eventually get a grade no thanks to the school. Mr Bright has a lot to answer for and I believe resign and a whole restructure for the school should be put in place - although sadly a little to late. A leaf should be taken out of Mr Constance, Mr Wilcox and Mr Cooper from the seventies, who run that school with a passion. Pupils respected their elders and discipline was always kept in place. spice15
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11:37am Fri 23 Nov 12

KarmaSuitsYa says...

If the schools in Wales are so bad then why don't you all take your responsibilities as parents seriously, and stop palming them off to these social conditioning centres...

Educate them yourselves - home schooling is still legal.

Seems to me that you all want to complain and whine about the failings of others when the best solution is surely to do it yourself?
If the schools in Wales are so bad then why don't you all take your responsibilities as parents seriously, and stop palming them off to these social conditioning centres... Educate them yourselves - home schooling is still legal. Seems to me that you all want to complain and whine about the failings of others when the best solution is surely to do it yourself? KarmaSuitsYa
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1:24pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Mark Poulton says...

Ruby2esday wrote:
As a parent of kids who will go to a secondary school in Cwmbran, this is so worrying. Fairwater used to be the school with a bad reputation but I hear nothing but good from there these days. It is funny how the management of a school can have such a huge impact.

The LA needs to take responsibility. How does it come to this? Are there no Torfaen inspection procedures to ensure that schools do not come to this?
Sounds like Fairwater would be a good choice for your family.
[quote][p][bold]Ruby2esday[/bold] wrote: As a parent of kids who will go to a secondary school in Cwmbran, this is so worrying. Fairwater used to be the school with a bad reputation but I hear nothing but good from there these days. It is funny how the management of a school can have such a huge impact. The LA needs to take responsibility. How does it come to this? Are there no Torfaen inspection procedures to ensure that schools do not come to this?[/p][/quote]Sounds like Fairwater would be a good choice for your family. Mark Poulton
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6:39pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Westpont says...

KarmaSuitsYa - are you serious?
We are in the fortunate position in this country whereby we pay taxes to fund education and healthcare.
In return we can expect a reasonable provision. There are many excellent schools in Wales who are receiving the same funding as Llantarnam does. If other schools can provide the minimum requirements for a sound education then so can Llantarnam. They have not. Therefore someone needs to be recruited to achieve this. David Bright has had time, money and resources and has failed. Simply he must go as he is accountable and responsible for all of these shortcomings. He has had 8 years to build on the school he inherited, instead he has dragged it into the educational gutter. Torfaen Education Authority are doing a complete disservice to every member of the Torfaen community if they allow him to carry on. He is a disgrace to, and brings shame up, the profession.

David Bright must be removed from Llantarnam School.

PS By your reasoning, if I'm not happy with my hip replacement operation, should I look into home surgery?
KarmaSuitsYa - are you serious? We are in the fortunate position in this country whereby we pay taxes to fund education and healthcare. In return we can expect a reasonable provision. There are many excellent schools in Wales who are receiving the same funding as Llantarnam does. If other schools can provide the minimum requirements for a sound education then so can Llantarnam. They have not. Therefore someone needs to be recruited to achieve this. David Bright has had time, money and resources and has failed. Simply he must go as he is accountable and responsible for all of these shortcomings. He has had 8 years to build on the school he inherited, instead he has dragged it into the educational gutter. Torfaen Education Authority are doing a complete disservice to every member of the Torfaen community if they allow him to carry on. He is a disgrace to, and brings shame up, the profession. David Bright must be removed from Llantarnam School. PS By your reasoning, if I'm not happy with my hip replacement operation, should I look into home surgery? Westpont
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10:13am Sat 24 Nov 12

Dixie Smith says...

If the School was a business the senior leadership team at Llantarnam would have been asked to resign. The problem is it's difficult to get poor teachers out of schools.

Lack of respect for teaching staff from both pupils and parents undermines any hope of discipline.
If the School was a business the senior leadership team at Llantarnam would have been asked to resign. The problem is it's difficult to get poor teachers out of schools. Lack of respect for teaching staff from both pupils and parents undermines any hope of discipline. Dixie Smith
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6:49pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Dee-Gee says...

coalpicker wrote:
Further to my previous comment .The lunacy of Tony Blairs immigration and social engineering of the labour party has not helped, with over a hundred
languages now being spoken in the UK,
discipline a distant memory ,teachers ,even good teachers have no chance.
Are you serious? You think that *Tony Blair* is personally responsible for Llantarnam School's poor Estyn report?

Why isn't every other school in the UK having similar problems, then?
[quote][p][bold]coalpicker[/bold] wrote: Further to my previous comment .The lunacy of Tony Blairs immigration and social engineering of the labour party has not helped, with over a hundred languages now being spoken in the UK, discipline a distant memory ,teachers ,even good teachers have no chance.[/p][/quote]Are you serious? You think that *Tony Blair* is personally responsible for Llantarnam School's poor Estyn report? Why isn't every other school in the UK having similar problems, then? Dee-Gee
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8:11am Mon 26 Nov 12

n51w03 says...

marchog wrote:
At not at all suprised that Llantarnam is in special measures - it is the most disorganised school that I know.

Every year confusions reigns:
timetables are not ready;
pupils not entered into the correct exams;
lessons replaced with group events.

My son did not recieve any maths homework in the 5 years her was being taught. (I had to help him)

There was also a significant number of teachers who didn't care. It's only through hard work and sheers bloody mindedness (and a couple of excellant teachers) that he has managed to succeed.
Gosh, hope you didn't have to help him with his English grammar & spelling lessons :-)
[quote][p][bold]marchog[/bold] wrote: At not at all suprised that Llantarnam is in special measures - it is the most disorganised school that I know. Every year confusions reigns: timetables are not ready; pupils not entered into the correct exams; lessons replaced with group events. My son did not recieve any maths homework in the 5 years her was being taught. (I had to help him) There was also a significant number of teachers who didn't care. It's only through hard work and sheers bloody mindedness (and a couple of excellant teachers) that he has managed to succeed.[/p][/quote]Gosh, hope you didn't have to help him with his English grammar & spelling lessons :-) n51w03
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1:13pm Mon 26 Nov 12

Mistaken says...

Being a student at Llantarnam, I agree with everything estyn has said. Lessons are not planned in advance, teachers cannot manage behaviour and the bullying is appalling. But the school cannot be blamed for people who fail, if a student is willing to learn the teachers are willing to help. Yes, they should try and help the ones not willing to learn as well but you cannot push a student who doesn't want to learn as they become more adamant that they will not. Parents of students at this school should also be to blame considering they should have taught their children manners, taught them that they should respect teachers and taught them that their future is important therefore so is school. You cannot blame Mr Bright for everything going wrong at this school when there are a lot more people who should also accept the blame.
Being a student at Llantarnam, I agree with everything estyn has said. Lessons are not planned in advance, teachers cannot manage behaviour and the bullying is appalling. But the school cannot be blamed for people who fail, if a student is willing to learn the teachers are willing to help. Yes, they should try and help the ones not willing to learn as well but you cannot push a student who doesn't want to learn as they become more adamant that they will not. Parents of students at this school should also be to blame considering they should have taught their children manners, taught them that they should respect teachers and taught them that their future is important therefore so is school. You cannot blame Mr Bright for everything going wrong at this school when there are a lot more people who should also accept the blame. Mistaken
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3:27pm Mon 26 Nov 12

bolney64 says...

I feel I must speak out as a parent of a pupil at this school. Mr Bright has worked tirelessly for our school and really believes in every pupil - he does not want to see any one of them fail and has done his best to raise standards despite poor teaching and lack of LA support. What we are witnessing here is a witch hunt by the Chief Education Officer for Torfaen, Mark Provis, who wants the head out so that he can do what he has always wanted to - combine all Cwmbran schools into one 'superschool'. He will close one of the existing schools (Fairwater, Croesyceiliog, Llantarnam) in the process by blaming 'falling rolls' and all our kids will suffer. This problem is not restricted to Llantarnam - every school in Probis' area is failing and he should be sacked. Instead he removes headteachers one by one to stop them challenging his destructive, ill-conceived plan for the town's schools. It is no coincidence that the head of Fairwater was sacked, the head of Croesyceiliog resigned and now the head of Llantarnam is under pressure. Mr Bright is not perfect and we can enjoy bashing him now but ultimately our children will pay the price. Without the head standing against Provis' plan, pupils will be forced into a 'one size fits all' environment which will fail even more of them. Behaviour will be even worse when our kids become just one more face in a huge institution with larger class sizes, more disruption and even bigger social problems. Mr Bright is the only one who can fight the school's corner but it may already be too late - I have a friend on the Governing Body who told me that they have been threatened by Mark Provis that they will be replaced if they do not back him and his plan and abandon support for the head. Despite our reservations, we should support Llantarnam before it is too late although I fear the chance may already have passed. Things might be bad under the current head but I can tell you (from those who know) that it will only get worse if he goes.
I feel I must speak out as a parent of a pupil at this school. Mr Bright has worked tirelessly for our school and really believes in every pupil - he does not want to see any one of them fail and has done his best to raise standards despite poor teaching and lack of LA support. What we are witnessing here is a witch hunt by the Chief Education Officer for Torfaen, Mark Provis, who wants the head out so that he can do what he has always wanted to - combine all Cwmbran schools into one 'superschool'. He will close one of the existing schools (Fairwater, Croesyceiliog, Llantarnam) in the process by blaming 'falling rolls' and all our kids will suffer. This problem is not restricted to Llantarnam - every school in Probis' area is failing and he should be sacked. Instead he removes headteachers one by one to stop them challenging his destructive, ill-conceived plan for the town's schools. It is no coincidence that the head of Fairwater was sacked, the head of Croesyceiliog resigned and now the head of Llantarnam is under pressure. Mr Bright is not perfect and we can enjoy bashing him now but ultimately our children will pay the price. Without the head standing against Provis' plan, pupils will be forced into a 'one size fits all' environment which will fail even more of them. Behaviour will be even worse when our kids become just one more face in a huge institution with larger class sizes, more disruption and even bigger social problems. Mr Bright is the only one who can fight the school's corner but it may already be too late - I have a friend on the Governing Body who told me that they have been threatened by Mark Provis that they will be replaced if they do not back him and his plan and abandon support for the head. Despite our reservations, we should support Llantarnam before it is too late although I fear the chance may already have passed. Things might be bad under the current head but I can tell you (from those who know) that it will only get worse if he goes. bolney64
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3:41pm Mon 26 Nov 12

bolney64 says...

bolney64 wrote:
I feel I must speak out as a parent of a pupil at this school. Mr Bright has worked tirelessly for our school and really believes in every pupil - he does not want to see any one of them fail and has done his best to raise standards despite poor teaching and lack of LA support. What we are witnessing here is a witch hunt by the Chief Education Officer for Torfaen, Mark Provis, who wants the head out so that he can do what he has always wanted to - combine all Cwmbran schools into one 'superschool'. He will close one of the existing schools (Fairwater, Croesyceiliog, Llantarnam) in the process by blaming 'falling rolls' and all our kids will suffer. This problem is not restricted to Llantarnam - every school in Probis' area is failing and he should be sacked. Instead he removes headteachers one by one to stop them challenging his destructive, ill-conceived plan for the town's schools. It is no coincidence that the head of Fairwater was sacked, the head of Croesyceiliog resigned and now the head of Llantarnam is under pressure. Mr Bright is not perfect and we can enjoy bashing him now but ultimately our children will pay the price. Without the head standing against Provis' plan, pupils will be forced into a 'one size fits all' environment which will fail even more of them. Behaviour will be even worse when our kids become just one more face in a huge institution with larger class sizes, more disruption and even bigger social problems. Mr Bright is the only one who can fight the school's corner but it may already be too late - I have a friend on the Governing Body who told me that they have been threatened by Mark Provis that they will be replaced if they do not back him and his plan and abandon support for the head. Despite our reservations, we should support Llantarnam before it is too late although I fear the chance may already have passed. Things might be bad under the current head but I can tell you (from those who know) that it will only get worse if he goes.
Just sent above as open letter to the Editor and the LEA: I have done my best to spread the word among the parents at the school already but I felt obliged to bring this school restructuring plan to the attention of the wider community so that they are able to have their say before it is too late - it is not just parents of pupils at Llantarnam who need to know about this.
[quote][p][bold]bolney64[/bold] wrote: I feel I must speak out as a parent of a pupil at this school. Mr Bright has worked tirelessly for our school and really believes in every pupil - he does not want to see any one of them fail and has done his best to raise standards despite poor teaching and lack of LA support. What we are witnessing here is a witch hunt by the Chief Education Officer for Torfaen, Mark Provis, who wants the head out so that he can do what he has always wanted to - combine all Cwmbran schools into one 'superschool'. He will close one of the existing schools (Fairwater, Croesyceiliog, Llantarnam) in the process by blaming 'falling rolls' and all our kids will suffer. This problem is not restricted to Llantarnam - every school in Probis' area is failing and he should be sacked. Instead he removes headteachers one by one to stop them challenging his destructive, ill-conceived plan for the town's schools. It is no coincidence that the head of Fairwater was sacked, the head of Croesyceiliog resigned and now the head of Llantarnam is under pressure. Mr Bright is not perfect and we can enjoy bashing him now but ultimately our children will pay the price. Without the head standing against Provis' plan, pupils will be forced into a 'one size fits all' environment which will fail even more of them. Behaviour will be even worse when our kids become just one more face in a huge institution with larger class sizes, more disruption and even bigger social problems. Mr Bright is the only one who can fight the school's corner but it may already be too late - I have a friend on the Governing Body who told me that they have been threatened by Mark Provis that they will be replaced if they do not back him and his plan and abandon support for the head. Despite our reservations, we should support Llantarnam before it is too late although I fear the chance may already have passed. Things might be bad under the current head but I can tell you (from those who know) that it will only get worse if he goes.[/p][/quote]Just sent above as open letter to the Editor and the LEA: I have done my best to spread the word among the parents at the school already but I felt obliged to bring this school restructuring plan to the attention of the wider community so that they are able to have their say before it is too late - it is not just parents of pupils at Llantarnam who need to know about this. bolney64
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4:56pm Mon 26 Nov 12

ncfcr says...

james jackson wrote:
Teachers are on a hiding to nothing in these days of no discipline in schools. Their hands are tied and there is too much "****-footing" around where children are concerned.
Children are children. They do as they're told, until they leave school.
However, school can be very boring for many youngsters.
The slipping behind English schools is not good for Welsh pupils either, but what does the WAG do? Well. it thinks up another little scheme to "improve" standards and to take control of schools away from local authorities.
People in education are heartily sick of the interference in schools, especially when the results are poor. Discipline shouldn't be something that schools have to enforce. It should come from the home, but of course there are now so many broken homes, with no father figure, or splits through divorce, that one asks, where will discipline come from?
Children in the 21c are too indulged and are treated like adults when they're merely little children. They are not allowed a childhood; they are sexualised from an early age; they are bullied by thugs in and out of school and we expect teachers (mere mortals) to have the answer to every problem.
It is sad that Llantarnam is now placed in special measures, but it's not the fault of the staff, who work with what they have.
Maybe the deterioration has something to do with the exodus of pupils to Newport High - which, we should remember, was pretty poor as Bettws High. Funny what a new school and a new ethos can do. Maybe Llantarnam should ask for a new building and then almost by magic, pupils will become model pupils; results will rise; behaviour will improve and everything's wonderful once more!!!!!!!
But the bottom line is: The Welsh government must do better.
The facilities there are second to none. I think that being provided with plush facilities, nice swimming pool, nice gym, good selection of food will obviously improve pupil behaviour.

When I went there it looked and felt like a prison and, no surprise, the majority acted like inmates.
[quote][p][bold]james jackson[/bold] wrote: Teachers are on a hiding to nothing in these days of no discipline in schools. Their hands are tied and there is too much "****-footing" around where children are concerned. Children are children. They do as they're told, until they leave school. However, school can be very boring for many youngsters. The slipping behind English schools is not good for Welsh pupils either, but what does the WAG do? Well. it thinks up another little scheme to "improve" standards and to take control of schools away from local authorities. People in education are heartily sick of the interference in schools, especially when the results are poor. Discipline shouldn't be something that schools have to enforce. It should come from the home, but of course there are now so many broken homes, with no father figure, or splits through divorce, that one asks, where will discipline come from? Children in the 21c are too indulged and are treated like adults when they're merely little children. They are not allowed a childhood; they are sexualised from an early age; they are bullied by thugs in and out of school and we expect teachers (mere mortals) to have the answer to every problem. It is sad that Llantarnam is now placed in special measures, but it's not the fault of the staff, who work with what they have. Maybe the deterioration has something to do with the exodus of pupils to Newport High - which, we should remember, was pretty poor as Bettws High. Funny what a new school and a new ethos can do. Maybe Llantarnam should ask for a new building and then almost by magic, pupils will become model pupils; results will rise; behaviour will improve and everything's wonderful once more!!!!!!! But the bottom line is: The Welsh government must do better.[/p][/quote]The facilities there are second to none. I think that being provided with plush facilities, nice swimming pool, nice gym, good selection of food will obviously improve pupil behaviour. When I went there it looked and felt like a prison and, no surprise, the majority acted like inmates. ncfcr
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5:05pm Mon 26 Nov 12

Readthepaper says...

It's the youth of today you see! Not enough discipline in the halls and too much slang on the streets!

One kid recently came at me with a stick shouting, “Hey what you looking at old timer? You saying my baby momma is a dog yeah?” I mean I ask you, the very thought of it gives me the fear!

As a retired teacher the last thing I wanted while working was a hundred Ferris Bueller disciples roaming these halls. There was one kid, John Bender, he was a criminal surrounded by jocks, princesses, brains and basket cases. Now he’s a successful politician because he attended many of my Saturday detentions!

Bring back the birch I say or put the kids in the dreaded “Chokey” to think upon their sins!
Maybe tthen their parents can get to sleep at night, instead of sitting up and worrying about these kids!
It's the youth of today you see! Not enough discipline in the halls and too much slang on the streets! One kid recently came at me with a stick shouting, “Hey what you looking at old timer? You saying my baby momma is a dog yeah?” I mean I ask you, the very thought of it gives me the fear! As a retired teacher the last thing I wanted while working was a hundred Ferris Bueller disciples roaming these halls. There was one kid, John Bender, he was a criminal surrounded by jocks, princesses, brains and basket cases. Now he’s a successful politician because he attended many of my Saturday detentions! Bring back the birch I say or put the kids in the dreaded “Chokey” to think upon their sins! Maybe tthen their parents can get to sleep at night, instead of sitting up and worrying about these kids! Readthepaper
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5:42pm Mon 26 Nov 12

Westpont says...

bolney64 wrote:
bolney64 wrote:
I feel I must speak out as a parent of a pupil at this school. Mr Bright has worked tirelessly for our school and really believes in every pupil - he does not want to see any one of them fail and has done his best to raise standards despite poor teaching and lack of LA support. What we are witnessing here is a witch hunt by the Chief Education Officer for Torfaen, Mark Provis, who wants the head out so that he can do what he has always wanted to - combine all Cwmbran schools into one 'superschool'. He will close one of the existing schools (Fairwater, Croesyceiliog, Llantarnam) in the process by blaming 'falling rolls' and all our kids will suffer. This problem is not restricted to Llantarnam - every school in Probis' area is failing and he should be sacked. Instead he removes headteachers one by one to stop them challenging his destructive, ill-conceived plan for the town's schools. It is no coincidence that the head of Fairwater was sacked, the head of Croesyceiliog resigned and now the head of Llantarnam is under pressure. Mr Bright is not perfect and we can enjoy bashing him now but ultimately our children will pay the price. Without the head standing against Provis' plan, pupils will be forced into a 'one size fits all' environment which will fail even more of them. Behaviour will be even worse when our kids become just one more face in a huge institution with larger class sizes, more disruption and even bigger social problems. Mr Bright is the only one who can fight the school's corner but it may already be too late - I have a friend on the Governing Body who told me that they have been threatened by Mark Provis that they will be replaced if they do not back him and his plan and abandon support for the head. Despite our reservations, we should support Llantarnam before it is too late although I fear the chance may already have passed. Things might be bad under the current head but I can tell you (from those who know) that it will only get worse if he goes.
Just sent above as open letter to the Editor and the LEA: I have done my best to spread the word among the parents at the school already but I felt obliged to bring this school restructuring plan to the attention of the wider community so that they are able to have their say before it is too late - it is not just parents of pupils at Llantarnam who need to know about this.
You are correct to a point. However,the allegiance between Provis and Bright is massive when compared to Provis and the Heads of Croesyand Fairwater. Provis has supported Bright in his destructive, negative approach to leadership. Unfortunately for them Estyn have split the old boys club up now - Provis will let Bright publically sink now, he is of no use to him anymore. The puppet master has dropped the strings of his most loyal muppet, sorry, puppet.
As for Bright working "tirelessly", its a shame you've subscribed to the hollow PR that Bright has spewed out for years. I guess that's why he does it, so that people genuinely believe his nonsense. Do tell me what he has been working so "tirelessly" on - I would love to know. Certainly isn't progress, safety of students, management, policies or staff development - all huge shortcomings identified by Estyn. If he hasn't been doing these things how has he been running the school effectively? "Tirelessly" running the school down with his unique blend of bullying and incompetency maybe. Alas, his work is now done, providing Provis with all the justification he needs to close Llantarnam and contact a housing provider to write the fat cheque for the land. And in the last chapter of this bitter sweet love story, a quiet word in the ear of Bright from Provis over a mediocre buffet at county hall, and a golden handshake - "Thank you David, your work is now complete".
Would be funny if it wasn't true.
[quote][p][bold]bolney64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolney64[/bold] wrote: I feel I must speak out as a parent of a pupil at this school. Mr Bright has worked tirelessly for our school and really believes in every pupil - he does not want to see any one of them fail and has done his best to raise standards despite poor teaching and lack of LA support. What we are witnessing here is a witch hunt by the Chief Education Officer for Torfaen, Mark Provis, who wants the head out so that he can do what he has always wanted to - combine all Cwmbran schools into one 'superschool'. He will close one of the existing schools (Fairwater, Croesyceiliog, Llantarnam) in the process by blaming 'falling rolls' and all our kids will suffer. This problem is not restricted to Llantarnam - every school in Probis' area is failing and he should be sacked. Instead he removes headteachers one by one to stop them challenging his destructive, ill-conceived plan for the town's schools. It is no coincidence that the head of Fairwater was sacked, the head of Croesyceiliog resigned and now the head of Llantarnam is under pressure. Mr Bright is not perfect and we can enjoy bashing him now but ultimately our children will pay the price. Without the head standing against Provis' plan, pupils will be forced into a 'one size fits all' environment which will fail even more of them. Behaviour will be even worse when our kids become just one more face in a huge institution with larger class sizes, more disruption and even bigger social problems. Mr Bright is the only one who can fight the school's corner but it may already be too late - I have a friend on the Governing Body who told me that they have been threatened by Mark Provis that they will be replaced if they do not back him and his plan and abandon support for the head. Despite our reservations, we should support Llantarnam before it is too late although I fear the chance may already have passed. Things might be bad under the current head but I can tell you (from those who know) that it will only get worse if he goes.[/p][/quote]Just sent above as open letter to the Editor and the LEA: I have done my best to spread the word among the parents at the school already but I felt obliged to bring this school restructuring plan to the attention of the wider community so that they are able to have their say before it is too late - it is not just parents of pupils at Llantarnam who need to know about this.[/p][/quote]You are correct to a point. However,the allegiance between Provis and Bright is massive when compared to Provis and the Heads of Croesyand Fairwater. Provis has supported Bright in his destructive, negative approach to leadership. Unfortunately for them Estyn have split the old boys club up now - Provis will let Bright publically sink now, he is of no use to him anymore. The puppet master has dropped the strings of his most loyal muppet, sorry, puppet. As for Bright working "tirelessly", its a shame you've subscribed to the hollow PR that Bright has spewed out for years. I guess that's why he does it, so that people genuinely believe his nonsense. Do tell me what he has been working so "tirelessly" on - I would love to know. Certainly isn't progress, safety of students, management, policies or staff development - all huge shortcomings identified by Estyn. If he hasn't been doing these things how has he been running the school effectively? "Tirelessly" running the school down with his unique blend of bullying and incompetency maybe. Alas, his work is now done, providing Provis with all the justification he needs to close Llantarnam and contact a housing provider to write the fat cheque for the land. And in the last chapter of this bitter sweet love story, a quiet word in the ear of Bright from Provis over a mediocre buffet at county hall, and a golden handshake - "Thank you David, your work is now complete". Would be funny if it wasn't true. Westpont
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8:41pm Mon 26 Nov 12

Np207yb says...

Westpont wrote:
bolney64 wrote:
bolney64 wrote:
I feel I must speak out as a parent of a pupil at this school. Mr Bright has worked tirelessly for our school and really believes in every pupil - he does not want to see any one of them fail and has done his best to raise standards despite poor teaching and lack of LA support. What we are witnessing here is a witch hunt by the Chief Education Officer for Torfaen, Mark Provis, who wants the head out so that he can do what he has always wanted to - combine all Cwmbran schools into one 'superschool'. He will close one of the existing schools (Fairwater, Croesyceiliog, Llantarnam) in the process by blaming 'falling rolls' and all our kids will suffer. This problem is not restricted to Llantarnam - every school in Probis' area is failing and he should be sacked. Instead he removes headteachers one by one to stop them challenging his destructive, ill-conceived plan for the town's schools. It is no coincidence that the head of Fairwater was sacked, the head of Croesyceiliog resigned and now the head of Llantarnam is under pressure. Mr Bright is not perfect and we can enjoy bashing him now but ultimately our children will pay the price. Without the head standing against Provis' plan, pupils will be forced into a 'one size fits all' environment which will fail even more of them. Behaviour will be even worse when our kids become just one more face in a huge institution with larger class sizes, more disruption and even bigger social problems. Mr Bright is the only one who can fight the school's corner but it may already be too late - I have a friend on the Governing Body who told me that they have been threatened by Mark Provis that they will be replaced if they do not back him and his plan and abandon support for the head. Despite our reservations, we should support Llantarnam before it is too late although I fear the chance may already have passed. Things might be bad under the current head but I can tell you (from those who know) that it will only get worse if he goes.
Just sent above as open letter to the Editor and the LEA: I have done my best to spread the word among the parents at the school already but I felt obliged to bring this school restructuring plan to the attention of the wider community so that they are able to have their say before it is too late - it is not just parents of pupils at Llantarnam who need to know about this.
You are correct to a point. However,the allegiance between Provis and Bright is massive when compared to Provis and the Heads of Croesyand Fairwater. Provis has supported Bright in his destructive, negative approach to leadership. Unfortunately for them Estyn have split the old boys club up now - Provis will let Bright publically sink now, he is of no use to him anymore. The puppet master has dropped the strings of his most loyal muppet, sorry, puppet.
As for Bright working "tirelessly", its a shame you've subscribed to the hollow PR that Bright has spewed out for years. I guess that's why he does it, so that people genuinely believe his nonsense. Do tell me what he has been working so "tirelessly" on - I would love to know. Certainly isn't progress, safety of students, management, policies or staff development - all huge shortcomings identified by Estyn. If he hasn't been doing these things how has he been running the school effectively? "Tirelessly" running the school down with his unique blend of bullying and incompetency maybe. Alas, his work is now done, providing Provis with all the justification he needs to close Llantarnam and contact a housing provider to write the fat cheque for the land. And in the last chapter of this bitter sweet love story, a quiet word in the ear of Bright from Provis over a mediocre buffet at county hall, and a golden handshake - "Thank you David, your work is now complete".
Would be funny if it wasn't true.
ncfcr comments:

The facilities there are second to none. I think that being provided with plush facilities, nice swimming pool, nice gym, good selection of food will obviously improve pupil behaviour.


Facilities second to none -- mmmMM.

Just because something has the glitter of newness does not mean that things are "better". Judge on the behavior of the kids.

Don't be fooled by things being brushed under the carpet it doesn't matter how shiny and new that carpet is.

As to the food, my daughter won't eat in the canteen any more due to the disgusting amount of litter and constant running round inside the building. The food is certainly no better than the old building - and at least the kids could go home if they wanted.
[quote][p][bold]Westpont[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolney64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolney64[/bold] wrote: I feel I must speak out as a parent of a pupil at this school. Mr Bright has worked tirelessly for our school and really believes in every pupil - he does not want to see any one of them fail and has done his best to raise standards despite poor teaching and lack of LA support. What we are witnessing here is a witch hunt by the Chief Education Officer for Torfaen, Mark Provis, who wants the head out so that he can do what he has always wanted to - combine all Cwmbran schools into one 'superschool'. He will close one of the existing schools (Fairwater, Croesyceiliog, Llantarnam) in the process by blaming 'falling rolls' and all our kids will suffer. This problem is not restricted to Llantarnam - every school in Probis' area is failing and he should be sacked. Instead he removes headteachers one by one to stop them challenging his destructive, ill-conceived plan for the town's schools. It is no coincidence that the head of Fairwater was sacked, the head of Croesyceiliog resigned and now the head of Llantarnam is under pressure. Mr Bright is not perfect and we can enjoy bashing him now but ultimately our children will pay the price. Without the head standing against Provis' plan, pupils will be forced into a 'one size fits all' environment which will fail even more of them. Behaviour will be even worse when our kids become just one more face in a huge institution with larger class sizes, more disruption and even bigger social problems. Mr Bright is the only one who can fight the school's corner but it may already be too late - I have a friend on the Governing Body who told me that they have been threatened by Mark Provis that they will be replaced if they do not back him and his plan and abandon support for the head. Despite our reservations, we should support Llantarnam before it is too late although I fear the chance may already have passed. Things might be bad under the current head but I can tell you (from those who know) that it will only get worse if he goes.[/p][/quote]Just sent above as open letter to the Editor and the LEA: I have done my best to spread the word among the parents at the school already but I felt obliged to bring this school restructuring plan to the attention of the wider community so that they are able to have their say before it is too late - it is not just parents of pupils at Llantarnam who need to know about this.[/p][/quote]You are correct to a point. However,the allegiance between Provis and Bright is massive when compared to Provis and the Heads of Croesyand Fairwater. Provis has supported Bright in his destructive, negative approach to leadership. Unfortunately for them Estyn have split the old boys club up now - Provis will let Bright publically sink now, he is of no use to him anymore. The puppet master has dropped the strings of his most loyal muppet, sorry, puppet. As for Bright working "tirelessly", its a shame you've subscribed to the hollow PR that Bright has spewed out for years. I guess that's why he does it, so that people genuinely believe his nonsense. Do tell me what he has been working so "tirelessly" on - I would love to know. Certainly isn't progress, safety of students, management, policies or staff development - all huge shortcomings identified by Estyn. If he hasn't been doing these things how has he been running the school effectively? "Tirelessly" running the school down with his unique blend of bullying and incompetency maybe. Alas, his work is now done, providing Provis with all the justification he needs to close Llantarnam and contact a housing provider to write the fat cheque for the land. And in the last chapter of this bitter sweet love story, a quiet word in the ear of Bright from Provis over a mediocre buffet at county hall, and a golden handshake - "Thank you David, your work is now complete". Would be funny if it wasn't true.[/p][/quote]ncfcr comments: [quote]The facilities there are second to none. I think that being provided with plush facilities, nice swimming pool, nice gym, good selection of food will obviously improve pupil behaviour. [/quote] Facilities second to none -- mmmMM. Just because something has the glitter of newness does not mean that things are "better". Judge on the behavior of the kids. Don't be fooled by things being brushed under the carpet it doesn't matter how shiny and new that carpet is. As to the food, my daughter won't eat in the canteen any more due to the disgusting amount of litter and constant running round inside the building. The food is certainly no better than the old building - and at least the kids could go home if they wanted. Np207yb
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8:27pm Tue 27 Nov 12

chris2727 says...

education in Wales statistically speaking is far worse than in England could wasting children's time learning welsh language be the culprit.
education in Wales statistically speaking is far worse than in England could wasting children's time learning welsh language be the culprit. chris2727
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