150 Magor jobs will go as Tesco concentrates on new centres

Free Press Series: 150 Magor jobs will go as Tesco concentrates on new centres 150 Magor jobs will go as Tesco concentrates on new centres

UP TO 150 workers at Tesco's Magor Distribution Centre could be made redundant as the retail giant concentrates its delivery operations on two new super hubs.

Today's announcement revealed Tesco, which employs more than 800 people at its Monmouthshire site, is slimming down the number of staff there because some of the work is going to a new centre at Reading.

When this new site opens in May the Magor site, which handles the delivery of dry produce to stores as one of 32 UK distribution centres, will see a reduction in the amount of produce coming through its doors.

A second new hub in Dagenham, due to be up and running from June, will have a knock-on effect at other sites across the UK.

Harlow in Essex, Weybridge in Sussex and Chesterfield will be shut completely, while Magor, which houses products like ketchup and gravy powder, is taking a staff cut like Welham Green in Hertfordshire.

A Tesco spokeswoman said the chain was still committed to Magor and it is looking at offering relocation to Avonmouth for some of the staff affected and alternative roles, including local in-store vacancies.

She said a 90-day consultation period will take place, where the options will be worked through with each individual, their representatives and the union USDAW.

She told the Argus 150 job losses would be the absolute maximum.

She added: "As part of a strategic review of our distribution network, we have announced plans to open a new grocery distribution centre in Reading, which will result in a slight reduction in our Magor operation. We have informed all affected colleagues, and we’re working with them and their representatives to support them through this difficult time.”

MP for Newport East, Jessica Morden, said: "The scale of the job losses is bad news for these workers and their families. In a press release Tesco talk about a “slight reduction in operations” at Magor as they expand in the South East which will be cold comfort locally. "I do not consider 150 potential job losses as slight. I urge Tesco to work with the Unions to avoid compulsory redundancies and to help those affected.”

Tesco said the two new centres will reduce road miles by 46,000 per week, cutting carbon emissions by 61 tonnes over the same period.

Between the two new super sites, around 1,900 new jobs will be created.

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5:59pm Mon 25 Feb 13

displayed says...

Once again, more jobs going "over the bridge"!
Once again, more jobs going "over the bridge"! displayed
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6:08pm Mon 25 Feb 13

maninundy's says...

Great 150 local people going to lose their jobs ..guess the 60+ Eastern European agency workers will be safe!
Great 150 local people going to lose their jobs ..guess the 60+ Eastern European agency workers will be safe! maninundy's
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6:17pm Mon 25 Feb 13

Independentvoter says...

Who are Tesco's kidding !

Job losses at this scale can only mean one thing, this company is in a deep financial mess and will not admit it. Alarm bells should be wringing with Tesco shareholders.

Is there something we don't know ?
Who are Tesco's kidding ! Job losses at this scale can only mean one thing, this company is in a deep financial mess and will not admit it. Alarm bells should be wringing with Tesco shareholders. Is there something we don't know ? Independentvoter
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6:24pm Mon 25 Feb 13

Magor says...

I have heard the wages at the new one in Avonmouth are a lot lower than the one it replaced at Chepstow.
I have heard the wages at the new one in Avonmouth are a lot lower than the one it replaced at Chepstow. Magor
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6:27pm Mon 25 Feb 13

Magor says...

maninundy's wrote:
Great 150 local people going to lose their jobs ..guess the 60+ Eastern European agency workers will be safe!
They will be getting the new jobs in England!
[quote][p][bold]maninundy's[/bold] wrote: Great 150 local people going to lose their jobs ..guess the 60+ Eastern European agency workers will be safe![/p][/quote]They will be getting the new jobs in England! Magor
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6:28pm Mon 25 Feb 13

Llanmartinangel says...

Independentvoter wrote:
Who are Tesco's kidding !

Job losses at this scale can only mean one thing, this company is in a deep financial mess and will not admit it. Alarm bells should be wringing with Tesco shareholders.

Is there something we don't know ?
With turnover of £72 billion and profits of £3.8 billion (up 5.3% on prev year), I doubt they are in dire straits just yet. I suspect it's restructuring to reduce overheads. Normal business practice. It's shares are just off their high for the year so no one is jumping out of windows either.
[quote][p][bold]Independentvoter[/bold] wrote: Who are Tesco's kidding ! Job losses at this scale can only mean one thing, this company is in a deep financial mess and will not admit it. Alarm bells should be wringing with Tesco shareholders. Is there something we don't know ?[/p][/quote]With turnover of £72 billion and profits of £3.8 billion (up 5.3% on prev year), I doubt they are in dire straits just yet. I suspect it's restructuring to reduce overheads. Normal business practice. It's shares are just off their high for the year so no one is jumping out of windows either. Llanmartinangel
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7:08pm Mon 25 Feb 13

Independentvoter says...

Llanmartin angel - Normal business practice ?

Are you speaking from current CEO experience of running a multi-million pound business in the UK ?
Llanmartin angel - Normal business practice ? Are you speaking from current CEO experience of running a multi-million pound business in the UK ? Independentvoter
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7:09pm Mon 25 Feb 13

farmerspike says...

Oh great, i work at Magor where the reundancies have been announced.

I have just found out from facebook, South Wales Argus and T.V. - this is the first i have heard about it. When i just phoned 1 of my work colleagues he did not know anything about it.

What is this rubbish that the staff have already been informed.
Oh great, i work at Magor where the reundancies have been announced. I have just found out from facebook, South Wales Argus and T.V. - this is the first i have heard about it. When i just phoned 1 of my work colleagues he did not know anything about it. What is this rubbish that the staff have already been informed. farmerspike
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7:16pm Mon 25 Feb 13

Llanmartinangel says...

Independentvoter wrote:
Llanmartin angel - Normal business practice ?

Are you speaking from current CEO experience of running a multi-million pound business in the UK ?
I've been a senior manager in a multinational where we did this sort of thing on a regular basis. It wasn't my idea but I spent a lot of time making it happen.
[quote][p][bold]Independentvoter[/bold] wrote: Llanmartin angel - Normal business practice ? Are you speaking from current CEO experience of running a multi-million pound business in the UK ?[/p][/quote]I've been a senior manager in a multinational where we did this sort of thing on a regular basis. It wasn't my idea but I spent a lot of time making it happen. Llanmartinangel
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7:51pm Mon 25 Feb 13

Sevans84 says...

My hubby works for tesco he used to work in Chepstow depot he got offered a place in magor but didn't take it glad he never now he now works for the one in Avonmouth and he has to travel about 1hrs each way and no pay rise to go over there apart from they pay the bridge for 2 years then he has to pay himself
My hubby works for tesco he used to work in Chepstow depot he got offered a place in magor but didn't take it glad he never now he now works for the one in Avonmouth and he has to travel about 1hrs each way and no pay rise to go over there apart from they pay the bridge for 2 years then he has to pay himself Sevans84
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7:57pm Mon 25 Feb 13

DavidMclean says...

Why do local authorities bend over backwards to accommodate these multinational businesses which have NO loyalty to the area?
Why do local authorities bend over backwards to accommodate these multinational businesses which have NO loyalty to the area? DavidMclean
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8:03pm Mon 25 Feb 13

33daverave says...

Why does the Argus delete any messages that bring up the Eastern Europeans.
I've had a few go in the last couple of days
Why does the Argus delete any messages that bring up the Eastern Europeans. I've had a few go in the last couple of days 33daverave
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8:20pm Mon 25 Feb 13

slobodon says...

60 + East Europeans, your having a laugh, its closer to 200.
Tesco say they will retain their agency staff to give them flexibility. For flexibility read, "cheap exploited labour".
Be interesting to see what happens if Tesco dont get their 146 victims voluntarily. What then, compulsories? More British workers with 10 years service given the boot for a Slavic who just got off a coach.
British jobs for British workers. Dont you believe it.
60 + East Europeans, your having a laugh, its closer to 200. Tesco say they will retain their agency staff to give them flexibility. For flexibility read, "cheap exploited labour". Be interesting to see what happens if Tesco dont get their 146 victims voluntarily. What then, compulsories? More British workers with 10 years service given the boot for a Slavic who just got off a coach. British jobs for British workers. Dont you believe it. slobodon
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9:51pm Mon 25 Feb 13

paddyparry says...

I stopped shopping at Tesco years ago. Remember that this is the store that killed the high street and then tell everyone that they are only giving customers what they want.

How can workers at Magor afford to move to Dagenham or Reading? They couldn't even afford homes in these areas.

If they're so committed to Magor why have they already moved jobs to Avonmouth? In doing so they made staff reapply for their jobs and then cut the salaries.

It looks like their slogan is right...


Every little helps...

the directors and shareholders that is.
I stopped shopping at Tesco years ago. Remember that this is the store that killed the high street and then tell everyone that they are only giving customers what they want. How can workers at Magor afford to move to Dagenham or Reading? They couldn't even afford homes in these areas. If they're so committed to Magor why have they already moved jobs to Avonmouth? In doing so they made staff reapply for their jobs and then cut the salaries. It looks like their slogan is right... Every little helps... the directors and shareholders that is. paddyparry
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4:08am Tue 26 Feb 13

maninundy's says...

slobodon wrote:
60 + East Europeans, your having a laugh, its closer to 200.
Tesco say they will retain their agency staff to give them flexibility. For flexibility read, "cheap exploited labour".
Be interesting to see what happens if Tesco dont get their 146 victims voluntarily. What then, compulsories? More British workers with 10 years service given the boot for a Slavic who just got off a coach.
British jobs for British workers. Dont you believe it.
True 60+ per shift...no full time job should be lost while agency staff are employed..
[quote][p][bold]slobodon[/bold] wrote: 60 + East Europeans, your having a laugh, its closer to 200. Tesco say they will retain their agency staff to give them flexibility. For flexibility read, "cheap exploited labour". Be interesting to see what happens if Tesco dont get their 146 victims voluntarily. What then, compulsories? More British workers with 10 years service given the boot for a Slavic who just got off a coach. British jobs for British workers. Dont you believe it.[/p][/quote]True 60+ per shift...no full time job should be lost while agency staff are employed.. maninundy's
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9:17am Tue 26 Feb 13

portforever says...

more eastern block coming in jan , we will see the bulgarians and romanians coming to the uk. cant stop it as its the eu. so looks like more uk jobs will be lost to workers from eastern europe..
more eastern block coming in jan , we will see the bulgarians and romanians coming to the uk. cant stop it as its the eu. so looks like more uk jobs will be lost to workers from eastern europe.. portforever
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9:35am Tue 26 Feb 13

Floppy backed says...

There must be a huge cost saving of centralising, staff overheads, bridge fees & building overheads. Yet I still dont see how they save on road miles?

I still don't understand peoples loyalty to Tescos (club points etc) they are the market leaders in crippling the producers, having a too big market share of the abattoirs (talk about road miles shipping sheep from Kent livestock markets to Merthyr???), sub standard quality and the CEO thinking he can control the UK highstreet.

People should use their brain more and support local business.
There must be a huge cost saving of centralising, staff overheads, bridge fees & building overheads. Yet I still dont see how they save on road miles? I still don't understand peoples loyalty to Tescos (club points etc) they are the market leaders in crippling the producers, having a too big market share of the abattoirs (talk about road miles shipping sheep from Kent livestock markets to Merthyr???), sub standard quality and the CEO thinking he can control the UK highstreet. People should use their brain more and support local business. Floppy backed
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9:40am Tue 26 Feb 13

Floppy backed says...

portforever wrote:
more eastern block coming in jan , we will see the bulgarians and romanians coming to the uk. cant stop it as its the eu. so looks like more uk jobs will be lost to workers from eastern europe..
Still got ourselves to blame for the lazy british who wouldn't do the agricultural jobs and other long houred manual jobs. Sadly it too much of a fact that the majority (not all) are not work shy and will graft. Too many youngsters think they can get paid £20k working a 9-5 and want all the sick pay and holidays in the world. Perhaps the unions over the recent years have ruined british industry and commerce.
[quote][p][bold]portforever[/bold] wrote: more eastern block coming in jan , we will see the bulgarians and romanians coming to the uk. cant stop it as its the eu. so looks like more uk jobs will be lost to workers from eastern europe..[/p][/quote]Still got ourselves to blame for the lazy british who wouldn't do the agricultural jobs and other long houred manual jobs. Sadly it too much of a fact that the majority (not all) are not work shy and will graft. Too many youngsters think they can get paid £20k working a 9-5 and want all the sick pay and holidays in the world. Perhaps the unions over the recent years have ruined british industry and commerce. Floppy backed
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10:00am Tue 26 Feb 13

portforever says...

Floppy backed wrote:
portforever wrote: more eastern block coming in jan , we will see the bulgarians and romanians coming to the uk. cant stop it as its the eu. so looks like more uk jobs will be lost to workers from eastern europe..
Still got ourselves to blame for the lazy british who wouldn't do the agricultural jobs and other long houred manual jobs. Sadly it too much of a fact that the majority (not all) are not work shy and will graft. Too many youngsters think they can get paid £20k working a 9-5 and want all the sick pay and holidays in the world. Perhaps the unions over the recent years have ruined british industry and commerce.
totally agree with floppy backed, am not anti polish or any other people from the eastern block countries.at least they come here to work, unlike the lazy useless plebs we got who seem to think they can bum around all there lives with no intension of finding work.only reason i do not agree with the amount we have here is the pressure it puts on schools, health care housing ect,,,
[quote][p][bold]Floppy backed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]portforever[/bold] wrote: more eastern block coming in jan , we will see the bulgarians and romanians coming to the uk. cant stop it as its the eu. so looks like more uk jobs will be lost to workers from eastern europe..[/p][/quote]Still got ourselves to blame for the lazy british who wouldn't do the agricultural jobs and other long houred manual jobs. Sadly it too much of a fact that the majority (not all) are not work shy and will graft. Too many youngsters think they can get paid £20k working a 9-5 and want all the sick pay and holidays in the world. Perhaps the unions over the recent years have ruined british industry and commerce.[/p][/quote]totally agree with floppy backed, am not anti polish or any other people from the eastern block countries.at least they come here to work, unlike the lazy useless plebs we got who seem to think they can bum around all there lives with no intension of finding work.only reason i do not agree with the amount we have here is the pressure it puts on schools, health care housing ect,,, portforever
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10:38am Tue 26 Feb 13

nehpets snave says...

Come back Churchill ....Or Enoch ....
Come back Churchill ....Or Enoch .... nehpets snave
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10:39am Tue 26 Feb 13

nehpets snave says...

Come back Churchill ....Or Enoch ....
Come back Churchill ....Or Enoch .... nehpets snave
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10:49am Tue 26 Feb 13

whatintheworld says...

This is what we get when we rely so heavily on supermarkets for our food!
This is what we get when we rely so heavily on supermarkets for our food! whatintheworld
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11:22am Tue 26 Feb 13

Mr Angry says...

Floppy backed wrote:
portforever wrote: more eastern block coming in jan , we will see the bulgarians and romanians coming to the uk. cant stop it as its the eu. so looks like more uk jobs will be lost to workers from eastern europe..
Still got ourselves to blame for the lazy british who wouldn't do the agricultural jobs and other long houred manual jobs. Sadly it too much of a fact that the majority (not all) are not work shy and will graft. Too many youngsters think they can get paid £20k working a 9-5 and want all the sick pay and holidays in the world. Perhaps the unions over the recent years have ruined british industry and commerce.
Yes lets get rid of unions - get back to the good old days 80 hrs a week for 25p an hour no holidays overtime pay or sick pay - those were the days !!! Those at the bottom knew their place
[quote][p][bold]Floppy backed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]portforever[/bold] wrote: more eastern block coming in jan , we will see the bulgarians and romanians coming to the uk. cant stop it as its the eu. so looks like more uk jobs will be lost to workers from eastern europe..[/p][/quote]Still got ourselves to blame for the lazy british who wouldn't do the agricultural jobs and other long houred manual jobs. Sadly it too much of a fact that the majority (not all) are not work shy and will graft. Too many youngsters think they can get paid £20k working a 9-5 and want all the sick pay and holidays in the world. Perhaps the unions over the recent years have ruined british industry and commerce.[/p][/quote]Yes lets get rid of unions - get back to the good old days 80 hrs a week for 25p an hour no holidays overtime pay or sick pay - those were the days !!! Those at the bottom knew their place Mr Angry
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12:05pm Tue 26 Feb 13

portforever says...

mr angry, what a apt name, maybe he is one of the useless lazy plebs we got in our fine country, has he not heard of the min wage, so no idea why he says about 25p per hour. cant blame the poles for wanting a better life and willing to work to get it, just a shame our bunch are to idle to get up in the morning and would rather watch jeremy kyle than do a days work,,
mr angry is home at a odd time maybe he is one of the lazy bunch, my lazy and angry, oh dear me,,,,
mr angry, what a apt name, maybe he is one of the useless lazy plebs we got in our fine country, has he not heard of the min wage, so no idea why he says about 25p per hour. cant blame the poles for wanting a better life and willing to work to get it, just a shame our bunch are to idle to get up in the morning and would rather watch jeremy kyle than do a days work,, mr angry is home at a odd time maybe he is one of the lazy bunch, my lazy and angry, oh dear me,,,, portforever
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12:10pm Tue 26 Feb 13

County Snakeman says...

Floppy backed wrote:
portforever wrote: more eastern block coming in jan , we will see the bulgarians and romanians coming to the uk. cant stop it as its the eu. so looks like more uk jobs will be lost to workers from eastern europe..
Still got ourselves to blame for the lazy british who wouldn't do the agricultural jobs and other long houred manual jobs. Sadly it too much of a fact that the majority (not all) are not work shy and will graft. Too many youngsters think they can get paid £20k working a 9-5 and want all the sick pay and holidays in the world. Perhaps the unions over the recent years have ruined british industry and commerce.
£20k? You've got to be kidding......hardly worth getting up in the mornings for that.
[quote][p][bold]Floppy backed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]portforever[/bold] wrote: more eastern block coming in jan , we will see the bulgarians and romanians coming to the uk. cant stop it as its the eu. so looks like more uk jobs will be lost to workers from eastern europe..[/p][/quote]Still got ourselves to blame for the lazy british who wouldn't do the agricultural jobs and other long houred manual jobs. Sadly it too much of a fact that the majority (not all) are not work shy and will graft. Too many youngsters think they can get paid £20k working a 9-5 and want all the sick pay and holidays in the world. Perhaps the unions over the recent years have ruined british industry and commerce.[/p][/quote]£20k? You've got to be kidding......hardly worth getting up in the mornings for that. County Snakeman
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12:42pm Tue 26 Feb 13

Mr Angry says...

portforever wrote:
mr angry, what a apt name, maybe he is one of the useless lazy plebs we got in our fine country, has he not heard of the min wage, so no idea why he says about 25p per hour. cant blame the poles for wanting a better life and willing to work to get it, just a shame our bunch are to idle to get up in the morning and would rather watch jeremy kyle than do a days work,, mr angry is home at a odd time maybe he is one of the lazy bunch, my lazy and angry, oh dear me,,,,
For the record Mate - I work for a living, and have done for the past 38 years. I am entitled to a lunch break or would you like that removed. I have heard of the minumum wage - Unions campaigned for it for years.

Some bigots prejudge people
[quote][p][bold]portforever[/bold] wrote: mr angry, what a apt name, maybe he is one of the useless lazy plebs we got in our fine country, has he not heard of the min wage, so no idea why he says about 25p per hour. cant blame the poles for wanting a better life and willing to work to get it, just a shame our bunch are to idle to get up in the morning and would rather watch jeremy kyle than do a days work,, mr angry is home at a odd time maybe he is one of the lazy bunch, my lazy and angry, oh dear me,,,,[/p][/quote]For the record Mate - I work for a living, and have done for the past 38 years. I am entitled to a lunch break or would you like that removed. I have heard of the minumum wage - Unions campaigned for it for years. Some bigots prejudge people Mr Angry
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5:06pm Tue 26 Feb 13

Dolieboy says...

maninundy's wrote:
slobodon wrote:
60 + East Europeans, your having a laugh, its closer to 200.
Tesco say they will retain their agency staff to give them flexibility. For flexibility read, "cheap exploited labour".
Be interesting to see what happens if Tesco dont get their 146 victims voluntarily. What then, compulsories? More British workers with 10 years service given the boot for a Slavic who just got off a coach.
British jobs for British workers. Dont you believe it.
True 60+ per shift...no full time job should be lost while agency staff are employed..
I am an agency driver for Tesco and earn a lot less than their drivers. On Sundays I am on half their rate.

When things go quiet, like now I am stuck at home with no work and obviously no wages. Either that or dole
[quote][p][bold]maninundy's[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slobodon[/bold] wrote: 60 + East Europeans, your having a laugh, its closer to 200. Tesco say they will retain their agency staff to give them flexibility. For flexibility read, "cheap exploited labour". Be interesting to see what happens if Tesco dont get their 146 victims voluntarily. What then, compulsories? More British workers with 10 years service given the boot for a Slavic who just got off a coach. British jobs for British workers. Dont you believe it.[/p][/quote]True 60+ per shift...no full time job should be lost while agency staff are employed..[/p][/quote]I am an agency driver for Tesco and earn a lot less than their drivers. On Sundays I am on half their rate. When things go quiet, like now I am stuck at home with no work and obviously no wages. Either that or dole Dolieboy
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6:23pm Tue 26 Feb 13

welshmen says...

nehpets snave wrote:
Come back Churchill ....Or Enoch ....
Sadly these two Great men would have been regarded as racist by the Lib Lab and the Con's these days....
[quote][p][bold]nehpets snave[/bold] wrote: Come back Churchill ....Or Enoch ....[/p][/quote]Sadly these two Great men would have been regarded as racist by the Lib Lab and the Con's these days.... welshmen
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6:45pm Tue 26 Feb 13

portforever says...

Mr Angry wrote:
portforever wrote: mr angry, what a apt name, maybe he is one of the useless lazy plebs we got in our fine country, has he not heard of the min wage, so no idea why he says about 25p per hour. cant blame the poles for wanting a better life and willing to work to get it, just a shame our bunch are to idle to get up in the morning and would rather watch jeremy kyle than do a days work,, mr angry is home at a odd time maybe he is one of the lazy bunch, my lazy and angry, oh dear me,,,,
For the record Mate - I work for a living, and have done for the past 38 years. I am entitled to a lunch break or would you like that removed. I have heard of the minumum wage - Unions campaigned for it for years. Some bigots prejudge people
hope you had no more than 30 mins for your nose bag, well done keep up the good work, its people like you who make us british a proud nation.hope you clocked off and back in.38 years of toil you must be so proud .i dont chose to work any more but did have employment for many years,but realised i was better off on welfare, so keep it going , only another 22 years to go, or is it 70 years old now until you can retire,whatever it is well done and keep up the good work,,,
[quote][p][bold]Mr Angry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]portforever[/bold] wrote: mr angry, what a apt name, maybe he is one of the useless lazy plebs we got in our fine country, has he not heard of the min wage, so no idea why he says about 25p per hour. cant blame the poles for wanting a better life and willing to work to get it, just a shame our bunch are to idle to get up in the morning and would rather watch jeremy kyle than do a days work,, mr angry is home at a odd time maybe he is one of the lazy bunch, my lazy and angry, oh dear me,,,,[/p][/quote]For the record Mate - I work for a living, and have done for the past 38 years. I am entitled to a lunch break or would you like that removed. I have heard of the minumum wage - Unions campaigned for it for years. Some bigots prejudge people[/p][/quote]hope you had no more than 30 mins for your nose bag, well done keep up the good work, its people like you who make us british a proud nation.hope you clocked off and back in.38 years of toil you must be so proud .i dont chose to work any more but did have employment for many years,but realised i was better off on welfare, so keep it going , only another 22 years to go, or is it 70 years old now until you can retire,whatever it is well done and keep up the good work,,, portforever
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10:55pm Tue 26 Feb 13

Limestonecowboy says...

Independentvoter wrote:
Who are Tesco's kidding ! Job losses at this scale can only mean one thing, this company is in a deep financial mess and will not admit it. Alarm bells should be wringing with Tesco shareholders. Is there something we don't know ?
For your information the market is likely to react positively with news like this. Shareholders etc, like decisive action as it instills confidence - like it or not its the way it is.
[quote][p][bold]Independentvoter[/bold] wrote: Who are Tesco's kidding ! Job losses at this scale can only mean one thing, this company is in a deep financial mess and will not admit it. Alarm bells should be wringing with Tesco shareholders. Is there something we don't know ?[/p][/quote]For your information the market is likely to react positively with news like this. Shareholders etc, like decisive action as it instills confidence - like it or not its the way it is. Limestonecowboy
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8:05am Wed 27 Feb 13

Llanmartinangel says...

There's a lot of hypocrisy here. As Comet discovered, (where EVERYONE lost their job), if you let your cost base rise/become uncompetitive, you die. None of these businesses are monopolies. They all have competitors breathing down their necks. People talk in one breath about ethics like loyalty to a local area or employing Brits and then go on line for the cheapest wine/insurance/DVD and then bemoan how the companies they buy it from behave. Anyone on here buy petrol or school uniforms from Tesco? How do you think this 'cheapness' is achieved?
There's a lot of hypocrisy here. As Comet discovered, (where EVERYONE lost their job), if you let your cost base rise/become uncompetitive, you die. None of these businesses are monopolies. They all have competitors breathing down their necks. People talk in one breath about ethics like loyalty to a local area or employing Brits and then go on line for the cheapest wine/insurance/DVD and then bemoan how the companies they buy it from behave. Anyone on here buy petrol or school uniforms from Tesco? How do you think this 'cheapness' is achieved? Llanmartinangel
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9:27am Wed 27 Feb 13

Mr Angry says...

portforever wrote:
Mr Angry wrote:
portforever wrote: mr angry, what a apt name, maybe he is one of the useless lazy plebs we got in our fine country, has he not heard of the min wage, so no idea why he says about 25p per hour. cant blame the poles for wanting a better life and willing to work to get it, just a shame our bunch are to idle to get up in the morning and would rather watch jeremy kyle than do a days work,, mr angry is home at a odd time maybe he is one of the lazy bunch, my lazy and angry, oh dear me,,,,
For the record Mate - I work for a living, and have done for the past 38 years. I am entitled to a lunch break or would you like that removed. I have heard of the minumum wage - Unions campaigned for it for years. Some bigots prejudge people
hope you had no more than 30 mins for your nose bag, well done keep up the good work, its people like you who make us british a proud nation.hope you clocked off and back in.38 years of toil you must be so proud .i dont chose to work any more but did have employment for many years,but realised i was better off on welfare, so keep it going , only another 22 years to go, or is it 70 years old now until you can retire,whatever it is well done and keep up the good work,,,
What's it to you how long I had ? I dont get paid it, why the hell should I work it.

Before you ask I'm home today using up the last of my leave entilement. Or should I loose that as well ?
[quote][p][bold]portforever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Angry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]portforever[/bold] wrote: mr angry, what a apt name, maybe he is one of the useless lazy plebs we got in our fine country, has he not heard of the min wage, so no idea why he says about 25p per hour. cant blame the poles for wanting a better life and willing to work to get it, just a shame our bunch are to idle to get up in the morning and would rather watch jeremy kyle than do a days work,, mr angry is home at a odd time maybe he is one of the lazy bunch, my lazy and angry, oh dear me,,,,[/p][/quote]For the record Mate - I work for a living, and have done for the past 38 years. I am entitled to a lunch break or would you like that removed. I have heard of the minumum wage - Unions campaigned for it for years. Some bigots prejudge people[/p][/quote]hope you had no more than 30 mins for your nose bag, well done keep up the good work, its people like you who make us british a proud nation.hope you clocked off and back in.38 years of toil you must be so proud .i dont chose to work any more but did have employment for many years,but realised i was better off on welfare, so keep it going , only another 22 years to go, or is it 70 years old now until you can retire,whatever it is well done and keep up the good work,,,[/p][/quote]What's it to you how long I had ? I dont get paid it, why the hell should I work it. Before you ask I'm home today using up the last of my leave entilement. Or should I loose that as well ? Mr Angry
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10:59am Wed 27 Feb 13

Lliswerry Man says...

Most of you are obviously reaching an age of retirement as you really are clueless when it comes to wages and costs of living.
For a start ,most eastern europeans house share, and are not looking for Full Time in the UK, its all about following the money trial, they move from country to country.
Whereas... our own people who actually want to work DO not get the same chances, as some are considered to costly to employ, there is a reason why Employers like Migrant workers...... it is not rocket science.

So for all you clever wannabes who think you know how it works and what people should earn, chuck your job in, sign on, and take one of these low paid part time jobs and see how you manage to live.....Whilst Rents in Newport are low compared to the rest of the UK, they are still relatively High when you have to consider many jobs in and around Newport now pay the minimum wage with minimal hours. Add to that the increased travel costs, council tax, and utilities and it is NO wonder nobody wants to try.......YOU have all had it easy with your low rents/mortgages.... and cushy jobs... Try walking a mile in another mans shoes before you judge him with ill thought out ideas.

You have obviously not entered the job centres for a long long time as there are few people there who are not really trying to get a job.... How many migrants did you all have to compete against for your jobs? not many I bet !!! if it is NOT a problem as you claim, why did the Government admit it was a mistake... and that they underestimated the amounts who did come here....

The only good thing to happen lately is the bedroom tax, which will hopefully bring more Affordable homes onto the market so young UK born families can actually try and better their lives, but sadly many of the councils housing stock is still held up by pensioners,who simply refuse to move to a smaller affordable property.... Yet its them you hear complaining that the young do not make an effort?? oh really.....
Most of you are obviously reaching an age of retirement as you really are clueless when it comes to wages and costs of living. For a start ,most eastern europeans house share, and are not looking for Full Time in the UK, its all about following the money trial, they move from country to country. Whereas... our own people who actually want to work DO not get the same chances, as some are considered to costly to employ, there is a reason why Employers like Migrant workers...... it is not rocket science. So for all you clever wannabes who think you know how it works and what people should earn, chuck your job in, sign on, and take one of these low paid part time jobs and see how you manage to live.....Whilst Rents in Newport are low compared to the rest of the UK, they are still relatively High when you have to consider many jobs in and around Newport now pay the minimum wage with minimal hours. Add to that the increased travel costs, council tax, and utilities and it is NO wonder nobody wants to try.......YOU have all had it easy with your low rents/mortgages.... and cushy jobs... Try walking a mile in another mans shoes before you judge him with ill thought out ideas. You have obviously not entered the job centres for a long long time as there are few people there who are not really trying to get a job.... How many migrants did you all have to compete against for your jobs? not many I bet !!! if it is NOT a problem as you claim, why did the Government admit it was a mistake... and that they underestimated the amounts who did come here.... The only good thing to happen lately is the bedroom tax, which will hopefully bring more Affordable homes onto the market so young UK born families can actually try and better their lives, but sadly many of the councils housing stock is still held up by pensioners,who simply refuse to move to a smaller affordable property.... Yet its them you hear complaining that the young do not make an effort?? oh really..... Lliswerry Man
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3:34pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Gareth says...

First Tesco reorganises its logistics division.
Then I missed a call from my mum.
And last night, my missus stubbed her toe on the stairs.

This is the last straw. NO MORE. Let's close our borders NOW and stop all these things happening ever again.
First Tesco reorganises its logistics division. Then I missed a call from my mum. And last night, my missus stubbed her toe on the stairs. This is the last straw. NO MORE. Let's close our borders NOW and stop all these things happening ever again. Gareth
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4:00pm Wed 27 Feb 13

slobodon says...

Had the breakdown of redundancy figures that Tesco are looking for.

75 warehouse employees from the main
site
8 employees from the trunk station
40 drivers
2 employees from the lgv workshop
2 managers

and wait for it

19 east european agency.

19 out of 146 employees.
Gotta love Tesco. Trying to ship out loyal British workers so they can bring in more foreign agency. You could nt make it up.

No news on what happens if they dont get the required number of voluntaries.
Be interesting to see if they try and force through compulsories.
A chip in from the boys and a visit to an employment expert is on the way.
Had the breakdown of redundancy figures that Tesco are looking for. 75 warehouse employees from the main site 8 employees from the trunk station 40 drivers 2 employees from the lgv workshop 2 managers and wait for it 19 east european agency. 19 out of 146 employees. Gotta love Tesco. Trying to ship out loyal British workers so they can bring in more foreign agency. You could nt make it up. No news on what happens if they dont get the required number of voluntaries. Be interesting to see if they try and force through compulsories. A chip in from the boys and a visit to an employment expert is on the way. slobodon
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7:46pm Wed 27 Feb 13

33daverave says...

It should be 146 Eastern Europeans up the road.No question.
It should be 146 Eastern Europeans up the road.No question. 33daverave
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8:05pm Wed 27 Feb 13

regaturn says...

Britain has a long and noble history in offering sanctuary to those from abroad who are fleeing danger and poverty, the sacked British workers will be able to take some comfort knowing that Eastern Europeans have replaced them and that they are now able to send money home to their families, or on the other hand, sack the foreigners, British jobs for British workers!
Britain has a long and noble history in offering sanctuary to those from abroad who are fleeing danger and poverty, the sacked British workers will be able to take some comfort knowing that Eastern Europeans have replaced them and that they are now able to send money home to their families, or on the other hand, sack the foreigners, British jobs for British workers! regaturn
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10:01am Thu 28 Feb 13

dalesman1666 says...

EVERY LITTLE HELPS !
EVERY LITTLE HELPS ! dalesman1666
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10:25am Thu 28 Feb 13

arcangel says...

I remember as a child Enoch Powell,I believe he did say that immigrants would take over the country : Jobs,isnt his words coming true!!!!!
I remember as a child Enoch Powell,I believe he did say that immigrants would take over the country : Jobs,isnt his words coming true!!!!! arcangel
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12:45pm Thu 28 Feb 13

portforever says...

Mr Angry wrote:
portforever wrote:
Mr Angry wrote:
portforever wrote: mr angry, what a apt name, maybe he is one of the useless lazy plebs we got in our fine country, has he not heard of the min wage, so no idea why he says about 25p per hour. cant blame the poles for wanting a better life and willing to work to get it, just a shame our bunch are to idle to get up in the morning and would rather watch jeremy kyle than do a days work,, mr angry is home at a odd time maybe he is one of the lazy bunch, my lazy and angry, oh dear me,,,,
For the record Mate - I work for a living, and have done for the past 38 years. I am entitled to a lunch break or would you like that removed. I have heard of the minumum wage - Unions campaigned for it for years. Some bigots prejudge people
hope you had no more than 30 mins for your nose bag, well done keep up the good work, its people like you who make us british a proud nation.hope you clocked off and back in.38 years of toil you must be so proud .i dont chose to work any more but did have employment for many years,but realised i was better off on welfare, so keep it going , only another 22 years to go, or is it 70 years old now until you can retire,whatever it is well done and keep up the good work,,,
What's it to you how long I had ? I dont get paid it, why the hell should I work it. Before you ask I'm home today using up the last of my leave entilement. Or should I loose that as well ?
my angry is very angry today, skin up mate and chill out dude.am glad you are using the last of your hols, dont want you to get used to being home, as there is work to do and it wont do itself will it, tidy
[quote][p][bold]Mr Angry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]portforever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Angry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]portforever[/bold] wrote: mr angry, what a apt name, maybe he is one of the useless lazy plebs we got in our fine country, has he not heard of the min wage, so no idea why he says about 25p per hour. cant blame the poles for wanting a better life and willing to work to get it, just a shame our bunch are to idle to get up in the morning and would rather watch jeremy kyle than do a days work,, mr angry is home at a odd time maybe he is one of the lazy bunch, my lazy and angry, oh dear me,,,,[/p][/quote]For the record Mate - I work for a living, and have done for the past 38 years. I am entitled to a lunch break or would you like that removed. I have heard of the minumum wage - Unions campaigned for it for years. Some bigots prejudge people[/p][/quote]hope you had no more than 30 mins for your nose bag, well done keep up the good work, its people like you who make us british a proud nation.hope you clocked off and back in.38 years of toil you must be so proud .i dont chose to work any more but did have employment for many years,but realised i was better off on welfare, so keep it going , only another 22 years to go, or is it 70 years old now until you can retire,whatever it is well done and keep up the good work,,,[/p][/quote]What's it to you how long I had ? I dont get paid it, why the hell should I work it. Before you ask I'm home today using up the last of my leave entilement. Or should I loose that as well ?[/p][/quote]my angry is very angry today, skin up mate and chill out dude.am glad you are using the last of your hols, dont want you to get used to being home, as there is work to do and it wont do itself will it, tidy portforever
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4:55pm Thu 28 Feb 13

bruce 1994 says...

Gotta love Tesco. Trying to ship out loyal British workers so they can bring in more foreign agency. You could nt make it up.

loyal british workers..you have got to be kidding...it's because of the bristish work ethic that jobs are being lost. reward hard work i say...bring in more eastern europeans
Gotta love Tesco. Trying to ship out loyal British workers so they can bring in more foreign agency. You could nt make it up. loyal british workers..you have got to be kidding...it's because of the bristish work ethic that jobs are being lost. reward hard work i say...bring in more eastern europeans bruce 1994
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5:13pm Thu 28 Feb 13

Gareth says...

bruce 1994 wrote:
Gotta love Tesco. Trying to ship out loyal British workers so they can bring in more foreign agency. You could nt make it up.

loyal british workers..you have got to be kidding...it's because of the bristish work ethic that jobs are being lost. reward hard work i say...bring in more eastern europeans
"Gotta love Tesco. Trying to ship out loyal British workers so they can bring in more foreign agency. You could nt make it up"

But you seem to have done just that.

Crikey, all this anger on this site yet again from people who want to blame anyone, everyone, 'them lot' for all life's ills.

This is a story about a store relocating jobs from one area of the country to another. That's it. Not good for us, but great for Reading. That's business. That's life. What possible part of it demands all this vitriol aimed at blaming foreigners AGAIN?

There will be a story on here about a local girl winning a cuddly pet competition and I swear you lot will find some way to whinge about it and blame a foreigner for something.

It's becoming boring now and this forum is losing its place as a social pool of ideas; instead turning into a cesspit for whiners and blamers to whine and blame.

And here's a hint for most of the haters who can't find a job: employers like people who have some command of the English language, can spell, understand basic grammar and punctuation, and spend their time working hard and not merely complaining and blaming.
[quote][p][bold]bruce 1994[/bold] wrote: Gotta love Tesco. Trying to ship out loyal British workers so they can bring in more foreign agency. You could nt make it up. loyal british workers..you have got to be kidding...it's because of the bristish work ethic that jobs are being lost. reward hard work i say...bring in more eastern europeans[/p][/quote]"Gotta love Tesco. Trying to ship out loyal British workers so they can bring in more foreign agency. You could nt make it up" But you seem to have done just that. Crikey, all this anger on this site yet again from people who want to blame anyone, everyone, 'them lot' for all life's ills. This is a story about a store relocating jobs from one area of the country to another. That's it. Not good for us, but great for Reading. That's business. That's life. What possible part of it demands all this vitriol aimed at blaming foreigners AGAIN? There will be a story on here about a local girl winning a cuddly pet competition and I swear you lot will find some way to whinge about it and blame a foreigner for something. It's becoming boring now and this forum is losing its place as a social pool of ideas; instead turning into a cesspit for whiners and blamers to whine and blame. And here's a hint for most of the haters who can't find a job: employers like people who have some command of the English language, can spell, understand basic grammar and punctuation, and spend their time working hard and not merely complaining and blaming. Gareth
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5:31pm Thu 28 Feb 13

33daverave says...

So you're quite happy for locals to be dumped on so Tesco can keep it's cheap Eastern European labour.
Tesco are also happy enough to let the Welsh Govt. pay all it's bridge tolls whilst treating the workforce with disdain.
The Argus should be asking questions about this instead of just reporting.
So you're quite happy for locals to be dumped on so Tesco can keep it's cheap Eastern European labour. Tesco are also happy enough to let the Welsh Govt. pay all it's bridge tolls whilst treating the workforce with disdain. The Argus should be asking questions about this instead of just reporting. 33daverave
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6:18pm Thu 28 Feb 13

Independentvoter says...

Gareth - The Spanish keep saying the same thing too - Spanish Jobs for Spanish People, because of the hundreds of thousands of British people that live and claim benefits in their Country.

European Law states that us British can work and claim benefits Unemployment benefit, DLA, Housing Benefit, Carers Allowance, Tax Credits, Pensions, access to Schools, Doctors etc etc, in any European Country.

The same applies to them, they can work and live here too.

Did you see that Newport family on that programme a place in the sun ?
Gareth - The Spanish keep saying the same thing too - Spanish Jobs for Spanish People, because of the hundreds of thousands of British people that live and claim benefits in their Country. European Law states that us British can work and claim benefits Unemployment benefit, DLA, Housing Benefit, Carers Allowance, Tax Credits, Pensions, access to Schools, Doctors etc etc, in any European Country. The same applies to them, they can work and live here too. Did you see that Newport family on that programme a place in the sun ? Independentvoter
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7:45pm Thu 28 Feb 13

bruce 1994 says...

33daverave i'm more than happy for locals to be dumped on if those locals are not willing to do a fair days work to guarantee their jobs, however from my experience (at Magor) most local workers have very little work in them and are happy to get along doing as little as they can get away with
33daverave i'm more than happy for locals to be dumped on if those locals are not willing to do a fair days work to guarantee their jobs, however from my experience (at Magor) most local workers have very little work in them and are happy to get along doing as little as they can get away with bruce 1994
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7:01am Fri 1 Mar 13

scraptheWAG says...

if i was starting a business Wales is the last place i would choose especially a warehouse the severn bridge is now £18 for a lorry the costs to a business are too much to bear.

The WAG should nationalise the severn bridge costing 80 million p.a using the 200 million pa wasted on the welsh language to pay for it.
if i was starting a business Wales is the last place i would choose especially a warehouse the severn bridge is now £18 for a lorry the costs to a business are too much to bear. The WAG should nationalise the severn bridge costing 80 million p.a using the 200 million pa wasted on the welsh language to pay for it. scraptheWAG
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7:06am Fri 1 Mar 13

scraptheWAG says...

and yes i was told that TESCO blackmails the WAG to pay all its bridge tolls
and yes i was told that TESCO blackmails the WAG to pay all its bridge tolls scraptheWAG
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9:47am Fri 1 Mar 13

Gareth says...

33daverave wrote:
So you're quite happy for locals to be dumped on so Tesco can keep it's cheap Eastern European labour.
Tesco are also happy enough to let the Welsh Govt. pay all it's bridge tolls whilst treating the workforce with disdain.
The Argus should be asking questions about this instead of just reporting.
It's a private company with its own HR policies. If you are so passionate about it, then don't just wag a finger and shout, but hit them where it hurts: don't work for them or buy their products.

It really is that simple. That's the benefit of a free market economy: companies will live or die by YOUR decisions as workers and consumers, not theirs.

I wonder if this really is an issue of conscience. I mean, would your opinion would be the same if the move was into Magor instead of the other way? If so, then fair enough.

In fact, I will be the first one to put my had up and apologise to anyone who (literally) puts their money where their anti-foreign mouth is:

If you buy only from British companies using British workers; that you holiday in the UK driving a UK-made car by a UK-owned business and the rest of it.

After all, anything less means you are sending your money out of the UK and putting a UK worker on the dole. And you are passionately against that, right?

On the usual gripes about cheap foreign labour: "they" don't just get a job as a right of being an immigrant. It's the choice of the employers.

If you REALLY want to get rid of foreign workers, then you need to remove the demand for foreign workers.

Any employer needs an employee who has certain really basic qualities:

basic language and writing skills
desire to work hard and learn
desire to take direction and be managed
can be trusted to do the job without supervision
can be trusted not to skive or whine at management as soon as they've left
has attention to detail
has a willingness to do well
is punctual.
will be at work, and working, for the all the agreed hours and minutes.

If local applicants for the jobs had these attributes and qualities, then demand for foreign workers would vanish.
[quote][p][bold]33daverave[/bold] wrote: So you're quite happy for locals to be dumped on so Tesco can keep it's cheap Eastern European labour. Tesco are also happy enough to let the Welsh Govt. pay all it's bridge tolls whilst treating the workforce with disdain. The Argus should be asking questions about this instead of just reporting.[/p][/quote]It's a private company with its own HR policies. If you are so passionate about it, then don't just wag a finger and shout, but hit them where it hurts: don't work for them or buy their products. It really is that simple. That's the benefit of a free market economy: companies will live or die by YOUR decisions as workers and consumers, not theirs. I wonder if this really is an issue of conscience. I mean, would your opinion would be the same if the move was into Magor instead of the other way? If so, then fair enough. In fact, I will be the first one to put my had up and apologise to anyone who (literally) puts their money where their anti-foreign mouth is: If you buy only from British companies using British workers; that you holiday in the UK driving a UK-made car by a UK-owned business and the rest of it. After all, anything less means you are sending your money out of the UK and putting a UK worker on the dole. And you are passionately against that, right? On the usual gripes about cheap foreign labour: "they" don't just get a job as a right of being an immigrant. It's the choice of the employers. If you REALLY want to get rid of foreign workers, then you need to remove the demand for foreign workers. Any employer needs an employee who has certain really basic qualities: basic language and writing skills desire to work hard and learn desire to take direction and be managed can be trusted to do the job without supervision can be trusted not to skive or whine at management as soon as they've left has attention to detail has a willingness to do well is punctual. will be at work, and working, for the all the agreed hours and minutes. If local applicants for the jobs had these attributes and qualities, then demand for foreign workers would vanish. Gareth
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10:08am Fri 1 Mar 13

Gareth says...

Independentvoter wrote:
Gareth - The Spanish keep saying the same thing too - Spanish Jobs for Spanish People, because of the hundreds of thousands of British people that live and claim benefits in their Country.

European Law states that us British can work and claim benefits Unemployment benefit, DLA, Housing Benefit, Carers Allowance, Tax Credits, Pensions, access to Schools, Doctors etc etc, in any European Country.

The same applies to them, they can work and live here too.

Did you see that Newport family on that programme a place in the sun ?
I'm with you IV,

(...and no i didn't see the programme. What was it's gist?)

What a lot of people don't seem to take into account is the fact that the moment we close our borders to foreign workers, every other country does the same. And when that happens, for every boatload of people heading out, there will be two boats of people coming in!

If general importation was a matter of conscience for people (ie we should keep UK for UK people), then I may disagree with them, but I would certainly respect their view.

But to whinge at HR policies of supermarkets whilst still shopping there... to complain about foreign workers, and still get a curry or bab on a Friday night... to complain on this site using a China-made laptop, or sit in a German car listening to a Japanese stereo, taking a call on an American phone through a Scandinavian Bluetooth...

British jobs for British workers? Absolutely. There will be plenty for everyone. All we need to do is stop buying foreign goods, going on foreign holidays and work for foreign-owned companies.

So who's signing up first?
[quote][p][bold]Independentvoter[/bold] wrote: Gareth - The Spanish keep saying the same thing too - Spanish Jobs for Spanish People, because of the hundreds of thousands of British people that live and claim benefits in their Country. European Law states that us British can work and claim benefits Unemployment benefit, DLA, Housing Benefit, Carers Allowance, Tax Credits, Pensions, access to Schools, Doctors etc etc, in any European Country. The same applies to them, they can work and live here too. Did you see that Newport family on that programme a place in the sun ?[/p][/quote]I'm with you IV, (...and no i didn't see the programme. What was it's gist?) What a lot of people don't seem to take into account is the fact that the moment we close our borders to foreign workers, every other country does the same. And when that happens, for every boatload of people heading out, there will be two boats of people coming in! If general importation was a matter of conscience for people (ie we should keep UK for UK people), then I may disagree with them, but I would certainly respect their view. But to whinge at HR policies of supermarkets whilst still shopping there... to complain about foreign workers, and still get a curry or bab on a Friday night... to complain on this site using a China-made laptop, or sit in a German car listening to a Japanese stereo, taking a call on an American phone through a Scandinavian Bluetooth... British jobs for British workers? Absolutely. There will be plenty for everyone. All we need to do is stop buying foreign goods, going on foreign holidays and work for foreign-owned companies. So who's signing up first? Gareth
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3:13pm Fri 1 Mar 13

Llanmartinangel says...

Gareth wrote:
Independentvoter wrote:
Gareth - The Spanish keep saying the same thing too - Spanish Jobs for Spanish People, because of the hundreds of thousands of British people that live and claim benefits in their Country.

European Law states that us British can work and claim benefits Unemployment benefit, DLA, Housing Benefit, Carers Allowance, Tax Credits, Pensions, access to Schools, Doctors etc etc, in any European Country.

The same applies to them, they can work and live here too.

Did you see that Newport family on that programme a place in the sun ?
I'm with you IV,

(...and no i didn't see the programme. What was it's gist?)

What a lot of people don't seem to take into account is the fact that the moment we close our borders to foreign workers, every other country does the same. And when that happens, for every boatload of people heading out, there will be two boats of people coming in!

If general importation was a matter of conscience for people (ie we should keep UK for UK people), then I may disagree with them, but I would certainly respect their view.

But to whinge at HR policies of supermarkets whilst still shopping there... to complain about foreign workers, and still get a curry or bab on a Friday night... to complain on this site using a China-made laptop, or sit in a German car listening to a Japanese stereo, taking a call on an American phone through a Scandinavian Bluetooth...

British jobs for British workers? Absolutely. There will be plenty for everyone. All we need to do is stop buying foreign goods, going on foreign holidays and work for foreign-owned companies.

So who's signing up first?
Let alone go into hospital where my mother had a hip operation recently and the entire staff of the ward was Phillipino. The issues surrounding immigration and their use as labour are way more complex than the anti Tesco lobby seem to grasp. When I recruited for call centres, I found every job advertised by me was applied for by well-spoken, enthusiastic Polish lads and lasses. Every one passed the probation period, no exceptions. I wish the same could be said of those who grew up in Wales. If you are an employer, you recruit on the basis of who are the least trouble to employ.
[quote][p][bold]Gareth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Independentvoter[/bold] wrote: Gareth - The Spanish keep saying the same thing too - Spanish Jobs for Spanish People, because of the hundreds of thousands of British people that live and claim benefits in their Country. European Law states that us British can work and claim benefits Unemployment benefit, DLA, Housing Benefit, Carers Allowance, Tax Credits, Pensions, access to Schools, Doctors etc etc, in any European Country. The same applies to them, they can work and live here too. Did you see that Newport family on that programme a place in the sun ?[/p][/quote]I'm with you IV, (...and no i didn't see the programme. What was it's gist?) What a lot of people don't seem to take into account is the fact that the moment we close our borders to foreign workers, every other country does the same. And when that happens, for every boatload of people heading out, there will be two boats of people coming in! If general importation was a matter of conscience for people (ie we should keep UK for UK people), then I may disagree with them, but I would certainly respect their view. But to whinge at HR policies of supermarkets whilst still shopping there... to complain about foreign workers, and still get a curry or bab on a Friday night... to complain on this site using a China-made laptop, or sit in a German car listening to a Japanese stereo, taking a call on an American phone through a Scandinavian Bluetooth... British jobs for British workers? Absolutely. There will be plenty for everyone. All we need to do is stop buying foreign goods, going on foreign holidays and work for foreign-owned companies. So who's signing up first?[/p][/quote]Let alone go into hospital where my mother had a hip operation recently and the entire staff of the ward was Phillipino. The issues surrounding immigration and their use as labour are way more complex than the anti Tesco lobby seem to grasp. When I recruited for call centres, I found every job advertised by me was applied for by well-spoken, enthusiastic Polish lads and lasses. Every one passed the probation period, no exceptions. I wish the same could be said of those who grew up in Wales. If you are an employer, you recruit on the basis of who are the least trouble to employ. Llanmartinangel
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6:49pm Fri 1 Mar 13

Gareth says...

I think we're singing from that same metaphorical hymn sheet LV.
I think we're singing from that same metaphorical hymn sheet LV. Gareth
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6:59pm Fri 1 Mar 13

Gareth says...

(I meant Llanmartinangel)
(I meant Llanmartinangel) Gareth
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10:36pm Fri 1 Mar 13

Llanmartinangel says...

Gareth wrote:
(I meant Llanmartinangel)
We are Gareth :-)
[quote][p][bold]Gareth[/bold] wrote: (I meant Llanmartinangel)[/p][/quote]We are Gareth :-) Llanmartinangel
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5:23am Sat 2 Mar 13

maninundy's says...

Gareth wrote:
bruce 1994 wrote:
Gotta love Tesco. Trying to ship out loyal British workers so they can bring in more foreign agency. You could nt make it up.

loyal british workers..you have got to be kidding...it's because of the bristish work ethic that jobs are being lost. reward hard work i say...bring in more eastern europeans
"Gotta love Tesco. Trying to ship out loyal British workers so they can bring in more foreign agency. You could nt make it up"

But you seem to have done just that.

Crikey, all this anger on this site yet again from people who want to blame anyone, everyone, 'them lot' for all life's ills.

This is a story about a store relocating jobs from one area of the country to another. That's it. Not good for us, but great for Reading. That's business. That's life. What possible part of it demands all this vitriol aimed at blaming foreigners AGAIN?

There will be a story on here about a local girl winning a cuddly pet competition and I swear you lot will find some way to whinge about it and blame a foreigner for something.

It's becoming boring now and this forum is losing its place as a social pool of ideas; instead turning into a cesspit for whiners and blamers to whine and blame.

And here's a hint for most of the haters who can't find a job: employers like people who have some command of the English language, can spell, understand basic grammar and punctuation, and spend their time working hard and not merely complaining and blaming.
That's bull####.... The agency staff we use don't even speak or understand English ...
[quote][p][bold]Gareth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bruce 1994[/bold] wrote: Gotta love Tesco. Trying to ship out loyal British workers so they can bring in more foreign agency. You could nt make it up. loyal british workers..you have got to be kidding...it's because of the bristish work ethic that jobs are being lost. reward hard work i say...bring in more eastern europeans[/p][/quote]"Gotta love Tesco. Trying to ship out loyal British workers so they can bring in more foreign agency. You could nt make it up" But you seem to have done just that. Crikey, all this anger on this site yet again from people who want to blame anyone, everyone, 'them lot' for all life's ills. This is a story about a store relocating jobs from one area of the country to another. That's it. Not good for us, but great for Reading. That's business. That's life. What possible part of it demands all this vitriol aimed at blaming foreigners AGAIN? There will be a story on here about a local girl winning a cuddly pet competition and I swear you lot will find some way to whinge about it and blame a foreigner for something. It's becoming boring now and this forum is losing its place as a social pool of ideas; instead turning into a cesspit for whiners and blamers to whine and blame. And here's a hint for most of the haters who can't find a job: employers like people who have some command of the English language, can spell, understand basic grammar and punctuation, and spend their time working hard and not merely complaining and blaming.[/p][/quote]That's bull####.... The agency staff we use don't even speak or understand English ... maninundy's
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8:19pm Sat 2 Mar 13

scraptheWAG says...

well labour tried to push everyone onto benefits or into working in the public sector to gain there vote!!
well labour tried to push everyone onto benefits or into working in the public sector to gain there vote!! scraptheWAG
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10:13am Mon 4 Mar 13

Gareth says...

maninundy's wrote:
Gareth wrote:
bruce 1994 wrote:
Gotta love Tesco. Trying to ship out loyal British workers so they can bring in more foreign agency. You could nt make it up.

loyal british workers..you have got to be kidding...it's because of the bristish work ethic that jobs are being lost. reward hard work i say...bring in more eastern europeans
"Gotta love Tesco. Trying to ship out loyal British workers so they can bring in more foreign agency. You could nt make it up"

But you seem to have done just that.

Crikey, all this anger on this site yet again from people who want to blame anyone, everyone, 'them lot' for all life's ills.

This is a story about a store relocating jobs from one area of the country to another. That's it. Not good for us, but great for Reading. That's business. That's life. What possible part of it demands all this vitriol aimed at blaming foreigners AGAIN?

There will be a story on here about a local girl winning a cuddly pet competition and I swear you lot will find some way to whinge about it and blame a foreigner for something.

It's becoming boring now and this forum is losing its place as a social pool of ideas; instead turning into a cesspit for whiners and blamers to whine and blame.

And here's a hint for most of the haters who can't find a job: employers like people who have some command of the English language, can spell, understand basic grammar and punctuation, and spend their time working hard and not merely complaining and blaming.
That's bull####.... The agency staff we use don't even speak or understand English ...
...and although they can't understand nor speak the language, they are STILL more employable than local people?

That's a terrible indictment on the locals, not the foreigners!
[quote][p][bold]maninundy's[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gareth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bruce 1994[/bold] wrote: Gotta love Tesco. Trying to ship out loyal British workers so they can bring in more foreign agency. You could nt make it up. loyal british workers..you have got to be kidding...it's because of the bristish work ethic that jobs are being lost. reward hard work i say...bring in more eastern europeans[/p][/quote]"Gotta love Tesco. Trying to ship out loyal British workers so they can bring in more foreign agency. You could nt make it up" But you seem to have done just that. Crikey, all this anger on this site yet again from people who want to blame anyone, everyone, 'them lot' for all life's ills. This is a story about a store relocating jobs from one area of the country to another. That's it. Not good for us, but great for Reading. That's business. That's life. What possible part of it demands all this vitriol aimed at blaming foreigners AGAIN? There will be a story on here about a local girl winning a cuddly pet competition and I swear you lot will find some way to whinge about it and blame a foreigner for something. It's becoming boring now and this forum is losing its place as a social pool of ideas; instead turning into a cesspit for whiners and blamers to whine and blame. And here's a hint for most of the haters who can't find a job: employers like people who have some command of the English language, can spell, understand basic grammar and punctuation, and spend their time working hard and not merely complaining and blaming.[/p][/quote]That's bull####.... The agency staff we use don't even speak or understand English ...[/p][/quote]...and although they can't understand nor speak the language, they are STILL more employable than local people? That's a terrible indictment on the locals, not the foreigners! Gareth
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