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Caldicot teacher suspended amid inquiry into Harlem Shake video
10:30am Monday 4th March 2013 in News
A TEACHER has been suspended from a Gwent school after the council launched an investigation about his conduct in a video posted online.
A 34-second video, believed to be a take on the latest internet sensation the Harlem Shake, is understood to have been filmed at Caldicot Comprehensive School.
It was posted on video sharing website You Tube on February 20, but has since been removed.
Monmouthshire council said it was investigating reports a member of staff behaved in an unacceptable way when pupils were on their break.
Initially, the authority claimed the teacher had been suspended pending an investigation into a breach of the school’s social media policy.
But later a spokeswoman told the Argus: “One of our schools is investigating reports that a member of staff behaved in an unacceptable way.
“While we look into this, we’re not able to discuss the detail, to be fair to the teacher involved.
“It seems that the incident may have been filmed on a mobile phone by pupils and if this is the case, the footage will help with our investigations. The teacher has been suspended until we have examined the circumstances and if he is found to have broken the school’s disciplinary policy, action will be taken.”
Students have taken to Twitter calling for the teacher to be reinstated, with talk of organising a protest.
The matter has not been reported to the General Teaching Council for Wales.
The Harlem Shake is the latest craze to dominate social media and typically sees people dancing erratically to the song of the same name, by DJ and producer Baauer.
Videos have been posted by a number of Gwent organisations including South Wales Fire and Rescue Service staff and
Comments(46)
jo_les66
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11:57am Mon 4 Mar 13
amandaajd1
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1:37pm Mon 4 Mar 13
jo_les66 wrote:Totally agree, it's a bit of fun, and credit to the students by standing by his side....what is this world becoming....pathetic
How Pathetic, its just a bit of fun, all the kids are doing it, its not hurting anyone, Shame On You, your going to make Teachers be afraid of having any fun with pupils....and well done Pupils of Caldicot Comp, Stand by your Teacher and support them any way possible.
...it's nice to see a teacher has a sense of humour and gets on with the pupils, The pupils will respect him more...
Dai Rear
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1:50pm Mon 4 Mar 13
Well that'll be now, won't it? Because these big factory comps have headmasters who don't teach so the headmaster has looked at this video a couple of times this morning and can say "sack him" or "back to work at 2pm, matey"
If that teacher is still suspended without a decision being taken by the grotesquely overpaid clerks at Mon HQ by 12 noon tomorrow-it always takes longer for the incompetent to make up their minds-then let those clerks pay his wages, not us.
real_life
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3:17pm Mon 4 Mar 13
Dai Rear wrote:Before anyone starts accusing people of taking things too far or being OTT, best wait for the full report to come out.
"The teacher has been suspended until we have examined the circumstances"
Well that'll be now, won't it? Because these big factory comps have headmasters who don't teach so the headmaster has looked at this video a couple of times this morning and can say "sack him" or "back to work at 2pm, matey"
If that teacher is still suspended without a decision being taken by the grotesquely overpaid clerks at Mon HQ by 12 noon tomorrow-it always takes longer for the incompetent to make up their minds-then let those clerks pay his wages, not us.
Sure you will find that there is a lot more to this than meets the eye that wouldn't warrant the comments already made.
Just put a little trust in people rather than jumping to conclusions about jobsworths and spoilers of fun etc.
On the inside
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3:18pm Mon 4 Mar 13
Dai Rear wrote:Fool. MCC have no authority in employment matters it is the school Govenors.
"The teacher has been suspended until we have examined the circumstances" Well that'll be now, won't it? Because these big factory comps have headmasters who don't teach so the headmaster has looked at this video a couple of times this morning and can say "sack him" or "back to work at 2pm, matey" If that teacher is still suspended without a decision being taken by the grotesquely overpaid clerks at Mon HQ by 12 noon tomorrow-it always takes longer for the incompetent to make up their minds-then let those clerks pay his wages, not us.
Goldy_Lookin_Clart
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4:33pm Mon 4 Mar 13
He is a very silly man if he did that as he has used his pupils in a media posting which breaches child protection guidelines. On the other hand, if the pupils posted it, they would get a wagging finger of "dont do it again", a very silly man if this is all its about.
flick711
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4:59pm Mon 4 Mar 13
JamesMufc14
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5:19pm Mon 4 Mar 13
flick711
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5:35pm Mon 4 Mar 13
JamesMufc14 wrote:Even if that was the case, "it" still happened!
Actually a pupil uploaded the video.
Goldy_Lookin_Clart
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5:46pm Mon 4 Mar 13
For us who cannot view it like, how about a written transcript of said event. In the interests of a story like.
flick711
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5:56pm Mon 4 Mar 13
displayed
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7:05pm Mon 4 Mar 13
In this case for a teacher charged with creating and molding young impressionable students, he has clearly failed in his chosen career!
The consequences of which will follow him everywhere!
Not a wise move!
nikkie1974
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8:09pm Mon 4 Mar 13
Mervyn James
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8:16pm Mon 4 Mar 13
amandaajd1 wrote:I thought school was about learning, my mistake ..... that bit of fun was done in school hours, if we did that at work we would be collecting our P45s..... teacher was stupid, they get enough criticism as it is, now they demand it.
jo_les66 wrote:Totally agree, it's a bit of fun, and credit to the students by standing by his side....what is this world becoming....pathetic
How Pathetic, its just a bit of fun, all the kids are doing it, its not hurting anyone, Shame On You, your going to make Teachers be afraid of having any fun with pupils....and well done Pupils of Caldicot Comp, Stand by your Teacher and support them any way possible.
...it's nice to see a teacher has a sense of humour and gets on with the pupils, The pupils will respect him more...
ShockWave
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9:00pm Mon 4 Mar 13
flick711
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9:27pm Mon 4 Mar 13
nikkie1974 wrote:So if they're not allowed to do a silly dance with their teacher they will cause "untold chaos" and if the school takes things further they will be "risking the kids doing something awful"?? Really?? Think you've shot yourself in the foot with that "argument"!! Are these gremlins or pupils that you are describing?
Can somebody please explain what the crime is here? Surely it is better for the kids to feel safe and secure with their teachers to the point that they can do a silly dance with one of them for the whole of 2 mins, rather than running around Caldicot causing untold chaos?! I think the school should open their eyes and realise that these kids are the future of the school and to take this any further would be risking the kids doing something awful. Obviously this teacher is thought of very highly and I hope he knows just how much the kids want him back. The whole situation is people in power gone mad !!!
Gooding
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10:16pm Mon 4 Mar 13
This is an issue because the school head has made it one and is covering his/her back.
The days of teachers ruling with an iron fist have been eroded by politicians and stupid parents that won't allow their children to be punished, no matter what!
The best teachers nowadays are the ones who can entertain kids and make learning fun. The Harlem Shake is a fun, harmless craze.
Who uploaded the video, and under who's nest ructions is the only issue in all this, but to suspend someone seems reactionary and OTT to me.
Schoold have gone mad. What a waste of time, money and resources this all is. Caldicot School Governing Body should be ashamed.
jo_les66
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10:40pm Mon 4 Mar 13
Mervyn James
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8:36am Tue 5 Mar 13
flick711 wrote:It is detracting from education. There should be no usage of social media whilst you are in school. The fact they put pupils faces on social medias is what the issue is about. Schools are not allowed to do that it is illegal. As usual the let it all hang out sectors have not understood the issue at all.
nikkie1974 wrote:So if they're not allowed to do a silly dance with their teacher they will cause "untold chaos" and if the school takes things further they will be "risking the kids doing something awful"?? Really?? Think you've shot yourself in the foot with that "argument"!! Are these gremlins or pupils that you are describing?
Can somebody please explain what the crime is here? Surely it is better for the kids to feel safe and secure with their teachers to the point that they can do a silly dance with one of them for the whole of 2 mins, rather than running around Caldicot causing untold chaos?! I think the school should open their eyes and realise that these kids are the future of the school and to take this any further would be risking the kids doing something awful. Obviously this teacher is thought of very highly and I hope he knows just how much the kids want him back. The whole situation is people in power gone mad !!!
My son's school I have to sign 16 chits to allow or not the school to use my son's face via any publicity the school utilises, if parents have done this at that school, then they can be sued, this is why the head is concerned. There are parents who will que up to sue the education authority, that is the ones whose kids bother to attend.
JoePantry
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8:56am Tue 5 Mar 13
Goldy_Lookin_Clart wrote:I've seen the video, I actually went to the school and I know the teacher involved. the man is not silly, he is the best and most down to earth teacher there. It was a students idea to do it, and the student recorded and posted it online.
Ahhhhh so the teacher was filmed dancing with the pupils and he posted it on You Tube.
He is a very silly man if he did that as he has used his pupils in a media posting which breaches child protection guidelines. On the other hand, if the pupils posted it, they would get a wagging finger of "dont do it again", a very silly man if this is all its about.
JoePantry
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8:57am Tue 5 Mar 13
Mervyn James wrote:It was done at breaktime.
flick711 wrote:It is detracting from education. There should be no usage of social media whilst you are in school. The fact they put pupils faces on social medias is what the issue is about. Schools are not allowed to do that it is illegal. As usual the let it all hang out sectors have not understood the issue at all.
nikkie1974 wrote:So if they're not allowed to do a silly dance with their teacher they will cause "untold chaos" and if the school takes things further they will be "risking the kids doing something awful"?? Really?? Think you've shot yourself in the foot with that "argument"!! Are these gremlins or pupils that you are describing?
Can somebody please explain what the crime is here? Surely it is better for the kids to feel safe and secure with their teachers to the point that they can do a silly dance with one of them for the whole of 2 mins, rather than running around Caldicot causing untold chaos?! I think the school should open their eyes and realise that these kids are the future of the school and to take this any further would be risking the kids doing something awful. Obviously this teacher is thought of very highly and I hope he knows just how much the kids want him back. The whole situation is people in power gone mad !!!
My son's school I have to sign 16 chits to allow or not the school to use my son's face via any publicity the school utilises, if parents have done this at that school, then they can be sued, this is why the head is concerned. There are parents who will que up to sue the education authority, that is the ones whose kids bother to attend.
amandaajd1
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11:54am Tue 5 Mar 13
flick711
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1:10pm Tue 5 Mar 13
amandaajd1 wrote:I don't suppose the fire brigade had children behaving lewdly in theirs? I'm assuming they were all consenting adults?
Looks like the fire service has a sense of humour...or mervyn should they get their P45s to.....
amandaajd1
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4:17pm Tue 5 Mar 13
Gooding
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10:07pm Tue 5 Mar 13
Mervyn James wrote:Dear me. You would be lucky to last until break ti e as a teacher with that attitude! I'm not advocating teachers across the country do the Harlem Shake, but a sense of perspective please!?
flick711 wrote:It is detracting from education. There should be no usage of social media whilst you are in school. The fact they put pupils faces on social medias is what the issue is about. Schools are not allowed to do that it is illegal. As usual the let it all hang out sectors have not understood the issue at all.
nikkie1974 wrote:So if they're not allowed to do a silly dance with their teacher they will cause "untold chaos" and if the school takes things further they will be "risking the kids doing something awful"?? Really?? Think you've shot yourself in the foot with that "argument"!! Are these gremlins or pupils that you are describing?
Can somebody please explain what the crime is here? Surely it is better for the kids to feel safe and secure with their teachers to the point that they can do a silly dance with one of them for the whole of 2 mins, rather than running around Caldicot causing untold chaos?! I think the school should open their eyes and realise that these kids are the future of the school and to take this any further would be risking the kids doing something awful. Obviously this teacher is thought of very highly and I hope he knows just how much the kids want him back. The whole situation is people in power gone mad !!!
My son's school I have to sign 16 chits to allow or not the school to use my son's face via any publicity the school utilises, if parents have done this at that school, then they can be sued, this is why the head is concerned. There are parents who will que up to sue the education authority, that is the ones whose kids bother to attend.
Mervyn James
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10:56am Wed 6 Mar 13
On a personal level I WOULD like to see all mobiles etc taken from children in schools, banned on school premises, and computers blocked from accessing the internet except for learning with. They are there to learn, not to play about on twitter and facebook.
Our schools are dire as it is..... 4 LEA's are under compulsory admin.
amandaajd1
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11:23am Wed 6 Mar 13
flick711
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12:33pm Wed 6 Mar 13
amandaajd1 wrote:If a child if mine appeared on YouTube doing what some of the kids in that video were doing (and I'm not talking "silly dancing" here) then I would be very worried!! He was extremely stupid to put himself in such a situation!!
It was break time....time for fun...
pinkhandbag01
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3:15pm Wed 6 Mar 13
Mervyn James
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4:25pm Wed 6 Mar 13
The teacher is aware of the law, he chose to ignore it for 'fun'. Let us hope parents see it that way.
amandaajd1
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5:29pm Wed 6 Mar 13
flick711
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7:01pm Wed 6 Mar 13
Also, I have to ask whether Pinkie above has seen the video before discussing mountains and molehills. Once that video went public the school had no choice other than to begin a proper investigation.
twink19
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10:48pm Wed 6 Mar 13
amandaajd1
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8:17am Thu 7 Mar 13
twink19 wrote:;)
Flick711 you really havnt got a clue what you are talking about, you must be an uptight fool who has no fun with your kids if you cant see this as some fun there was nothing wrong with the video i have seen it and you for one are making a mountain out of a mole hill, this is someones career whos worked hard their life and the fact they could have a laugh with their pupils speaks volumes and that pupils have so much respect for their teacher that they are actually rebelling against it all, its the pupils taking advantange thats caused this by posting the video not the teacher
Mervyn James
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11:19am Fri 8 Mar 13
twink19 wrote:Ignorance is no excuse. On school premises the LA is at risk of a parent objecting via the child abuse act. You can understand the fun element, but the legal side is a minefield, that is why the school made the fuss. Kids being what they are, why were they allowed to film on school premises ?
Flick711 you really havnt got a clue what you are talking about, you must be an uptight fool who has no fun with your kids if you cant see this as some fun there was nothing wrong with the video i have seen it and you for one are making a mountain out of a mole hill, this is someones career whos worked hard their life and the fact they could have a laugh with their pupils speaks volumes and that pupils have so much respect for their teacher that they are actually rebelling against it all, its the pupils taking advantange thats caused this by posting the video not the teacher
Dai Rear
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10:49am Sat 9 Mar 13
Mervyn James
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11:41am Sat 9 Mar 13
Floppy backed
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9:13pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Dai Rear
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9:17am Sun 10 Mar 13
Floppy backed wrote:No it wouldn't. The kind of behaviour reported is so far off the scale of what is needed from someone with the care of young people that no amount of retraining would ever work. And they lost their way decades ago when the counties opted for the Politics of Failure and abolished the Grammar Schools.
shame we cant suspend teachers for poor uninspiring teaching. A warning would suffice here. Shame schools cant concentrate on what they are there to do. Schools in this country are losing their way.
Mervyn James
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10:51am Sun 10 Mar 13
flick711
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5:57pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Dai Rear wrote:Well said! A voice of common sense. I cannot believe the mentality of people who think you're an "uptight fool" if you are not in favour of a teacher simulating sex in front of pupils while some of the pupils are also simulating sex on each other! No wonder he's so popular!
It has been suggested in the papers that the teacher was mimicking copulation with a cardboard figure. If that's correct, sack him . Quite straightforward. Children need to be taught by teachers, not the nutter on the bus. And "On the inside " presumably being offensive makes you feel a big boy. If Mon DC doesn't employ this teacher and pay him, who does? And if the report is right, about the simulated copulation, then easy decision-10 minute one-sack him. Get a teacher who teaches and understands and conforms to behavioural norms.
twink19
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9:10pm Fri 15 Mar 13
twink19
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9:15pm Fri 15 Mar 13
flick711
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12:26am Sat 16 Mar 13
twink19 wrote:Dear Twink
Plus the teacher isnot even aware by looks of it what is goibg on behind them, not once does the teacher acknowledge what the pupils are doing and it is a 30 odd sec video not asif its 10 minutes, and when i was in school any plays or fun activities were taken part during break times, some people just dont know what they are talking about and forget about things they did in school
You are obviously a very loyal student of this wreckless man. When you are older you will come to realise the folly of his actions. I have no intention of commenting further on this thread.
twink19
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7:40pm Sat 16 Mar 13
county mad says...
11:53am Mon 4 Mar 13