Torfaen council promise to look at 'huge' response to black bin consultation

Council's promise on black bin collections

Council's promise on black bin collections

First published in News

A SENIOR member of Torfaen council has pledged to scrutinise fully the “huge” number of consultation responses to its proposals for the future of black bin collections in the borough, before making a decision on how to proceed.

The executive member for neighbourhoods, Councillor John Cunningham, hailed a massive return of views from residents over the controversial plans for the future of the rubbish service.

A total of 1,482 responses were made online, over the phone, or at roadshows held across the borough.

Last week we reported that more than 1,000 people had responded to the controversial scheme online alone.

Residents have been asked to consider whether they would choose to maintain a fortnightly collection but with a smaller 140-litre wheelie bin; try a fortnightly collection of two refuse bags per household; or see monthly collections introduced, using the existing 240-litre black wheelie bin.

The local authority believes there are the best options to meet future Welsh Government recycling targets and avoid significant fines.

An overwhelming majority voted for the first option, with just 186 people voting for the monthly rotation.

Cllr Cunningham said: “We had a huge response to this consultation and the overwhelming preference from the public was to maintain a fortnightly collection with a smaller bin.

“The consultation process will now be fully scrutinised, and the results will be presented to full council later in the year."

“Councillors will also be presented with the comments received during live Q&A sessions on social media to inform their decision.”

If councillors progress the scheme as voted for by residents there will be a cost to the council of £754,000 in the first year.

The consultation results will now be presented to the council’s Cleaner Communities Scrutiny Committee on July 23 for review.

The meeting will be open for the public to observe, and will be webcast.

It will be followed by a member’s seminar after the summer recess, which is also open for the public to view. The consultation results will then be presented to full council for a final decision.

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10:23am Thu 17 Jul 14

-trigg- says...

They can scrutinise the 'consultation' responses as much as they like, but they will not accurately reflect the true opinions of most residents. This is simply because of the strictly limited options available to choose from.

Instead of residents being able to express a preference for a scheme they actually wanted, many were required to choose the 'least worst' option instead. The website would not accept a response to the consultation exercise unless you selected one of the options the council want to force on us.
They can scrutinise the 'consultation' responses as much as they like, but they will not accurately reflect the true opinions of most residents. This is simply because of the strictly limited options available to choose from. Instead of residents being able to express a preference for a scheme they actually wanted, many were required to choose the 'least worst' option instead. The website would not accept a response to the consultation exercise unless you selected one of the options the council want to force on us. -trigg-
  • Score: 16

12:04pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Sometimes says...

REPOSTED FROM PREVIOUS SWA REPORT....

Dear SWA Editor, you should remove the parts of this story that refer to the number of people who had a preferred option, "The consultation found that an overwhelming 79% of respondents preferred option A", because in reality, you could not submit the form unless you selected one of the pre pre-chosen options, nowhere on the form did it have the option of "none of the above" and the SWA have just added to the residents dismay at this shoddy so called consultation by printing non facts regarding what people want. 1481 out of 92,000 residents or 1.6% responded, that's because they know the decision has already been made and their wishes ignored again.

The SWA needs to be more than just a mouth piece for the Councils, you ran this story earlier in the week and had a number of comments none of them positive toward the consultation and perhaps you could have made reference to those within the story.

If the SWA want a story from John Cunningham, they should ask him why so many of his staff are having an hour long break in Panteg Cemetery council office an hour before they clock off, perhaps making them work the hours they are paid for might reduce the council overheads and help toward the cuts.
REPOSTED FROM PREVIOUS SWA REPORT.... Dear SWA Editor, you should remove the parts of this story that refer to the number of people who had a preferred option, "The consultation found that an overwhelming 79% of respondents preferred option A", because in reality, you could not submit the form unless you selected one of the pre pre-chosen options, nowhere on the form did it have the option of "none of the above" and the SWA have just added to the residents dismay at this shoddy so called consultation by printing non facts regarding what people want. 1481 out of 92,000 residents or 1.6% responded, that's because they know the decision has already been made and their wishes ignored again. The SWA needs to be more than just a mouth piece for the Councils, you ran this story earlier in the week and had a number of comments none of them positive toward the consultation and perhaps you could have made reference to those within the story. If the SWA want a story from John Cunningham, they should ask him why so many of his staff are having an hour long break in Panteg Cemetery council office an hour before they clock off, perhaps making them work the hours they are paid for might reduce the council overheads and help toward the cuts. Sometimes
  • Score: 8

6:13pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Dave on his Soapbox says...

....must be elections in the offing......there'll be a deferment of this until after they get back in......
The WAG are imposing 4.5% funding cuts..... Europe are increasing targets which are likely to be missed......

The problem of the amount of waste is not only the fault of the public.....but the retailers and manufacturers......w
ho only seem to pay lip service and seem to get away without having to pay towards the problem they partly make....
....must be elections in the offing......there'll be a deferment of this until after they get back in...... The WAG are imposing 4.5% funding cuts..... Europe are increasing targets which are likely to be missed...... The problem of the amount of waste is not only the fault of the public.....but the retailers and manufacturers......w ho only seem to pay lip service and seem to get away without having to pay towards the problem they partly make.... Dave on his Soapbox
  • Score: 3

9:14pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Sometimes says...

Just had an email from the Torfaen "consultation manager" stating that following the findings of the non-consultation, they will now go before the Council, typically it is a do not reply mailbox!. As stated earlier, their three card trick has fooled even the SWA who have merrily reported the marketing geek without question.

Serious questions have to be asked about what our councils are doing, and if the SWA can't or won't ask them then who in the local media is there?
Just had an email from the Torfaen "consultation manager" stating that following the findings of the non-consultation, they will now go before the Council, typically it is a do not reply mailbox!. As stated earlier, their three card trick has fooled even the SWA who have merrily reported the marketing geek without question. Serious questions have to be asked about what our councils are doing, and if the SWA can't or won't ask them then who in the local media is there? Sometimes
  • Score: 3

4:46am Fri 18 Jul 14

MikeO4O8 says...

Sometimes wrote:
Just had an email from the Torfaen "consultation manager" stating that following the findings of the non-consultation, they will now go before the Council, typically it is a do not reply mailbox!. As stated earlier, their three card trick has fooled even the SWA who have merrily reported the marketing geek without question.

Serious questions have to be asked about what our councils are doing, and if the SWA can't or won't ask them then who in the local media is there?
From what I am told the Australians are ahead of us in recycling, they even tried what all this stuff about separating your waste to be recycled, they now don't get residents to recycle, they actually do it themselves at a factory which I am told by.someone who has a relative in Australia is improving the recycling. Why don't we just copy the people that are ahead of us as it shows they are doing something right, also it could Create a few more jobs.


BTW these smaller bins are no good, I have 4 adults and 1 6 month old baby living in same house and after a week the bin is full, council refuse to do anything as the bigger bins only apply to MORE than 5 people and they are planning to stop the fortnightly collection and do a monthly collection anyway.
[quote][p][bold]Sometimes[/bold] wrote: Just had an email from the Torfaen "consultation manager" stating that following the findings of the non-consultation, they will now go before the Council, typically it is a do not reply mailbox!. As stated earlier, their three card trick has fooled even the SWA who have merrily reported the marketing geek without question. Serious questions have to be asked about what our councils are doing, and if the SWA can't or won't ask them then who in the local media is there?[/p][/quote]From what I am told the Australians are ahead of us in recycling, they even tried what all this stuff about separating your waste to be recycled, they now don't get residents to recycle, they actually do it themselves at a factory which I am told by.someone who has a relative in Australia is improving the recycling. Why don't we just copy the people that are ahead of us as it shows they are doing something right, also it could Create a few more jobs. BTW these smaller bins are no good, I have 4 adults and 1 6 month old baby living in same house and after a week the bin is full, council refuse to do anything as the bigger bins only apply to MORE than 5 people and they are planning to stop the fortnightly collection and do a monthly collection anyway. MikeO4O8
  • Score: 2

7:02am Fri 18 Jul 14

indy2012 says...

It was not a consultation, you gave us a choice of three evils, as stated in above posts if none of them were acceptable to you and you did not tick one of those boxes you could not leave a comment.
Well here is a comment for you, Cunningham you are a discrace to the office that you hold, this hair brained idea of our rubbish being collected fortnightly and in smaller bins will turn Torfaen into a dumping ground, we have seen services cut at an alarming rate and yet our council tax has risen yet again, if as you say that this has come from the WAG, grow a pair and stand up to them. SWA you could do your bit and start an online petition against this stupid idea. Roll on the elections.
It was not a consultation, you gave us a choice of three evils, as stated in above posts if none of them were acceptable to you and you did not tick one of those boxes you could not leave a comment. Well here is a comment for you, Cunningham you are a discrace to the office that you hold, this hair brained idea of our rubbish being collected fortnightly and in smaller bins will turn Torfaen into a dumping ground, we have seen services cut at an alarming rate and yet our council tax has risen yet again, if as you say that this has come from the WAG, grow a pair and stand up to them. SWA you could do your bit and start an online petition against this stupid idea. Roll on the elections. indy2012
  • Score: 2

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