Adam Jones should be at the Dragons, says Wales forwards coach

SURPRISE: Adam Jones' move to Cardiff has given Robin McBryde the Blues

SURPRISE: Adam Jones' move to Cardiff has given Robin McBryde the Blues

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WALES star Adam Jones should have signed for Newport Gwent Dragons, says national forwards coach Robin McBryde.

British and Irish Lions prop Jones caused a surprise when he joined Cardiff Blues on a one-year deal last week.

He left Ospreys at the end of last season and had been in limbo because of the ongoing dispute between the Welsh Rugby Union and the four Welsh regions.

If and when a new deal over the funding of the domestic game is resolved he had been expected to rejoin Ospreys.

But the 33-year-old, who has won 95 Wales caps, instead joined the side from the capital, where he will compete with fellow Welsh international tight-head props Craig Mitchell and Scott Andrews.

McBryde is pleased that Jones has found a club ahead of the autumn internationals but he believes the veteran would have been better off at Rodney Parade.

And he feels Welsh rugby would also have benefited because Jones, Mitchell and Andrews would all have been playing on a regular basis.

“From Adam’s point of view I’m just glad that he’s found someone to play for and he’s going to be playing rugby on a regular basis, which is great,” said McBryde.

“But I am surprised he’s gone to the Blues from a national perspective. They’ve got Craig Mitchell and Scott Andrews who are obviously Wales international tight-heads as well.

“It would have been great if he was at the Dragons, for instance, because that would have meant, maybe, they wouldn’t have to fork out a lot of money for a South African tight-head.

“From a national perspective, the more players you have got who are eligible to play for Wales playing in matches, the more you have to choose from so it is common sense. Craig Mitchell has come back from Exeter to play.”

The Dragons signed South African tight-head Juan 'Brok' Harris on a three-year contract earlier this month.

Dragons director of rugby Lyn Jones said: "Brok will offer the expertise and experience we need to help our young Gwent props grow into future Welsh international players.”

McBryde was speaking at The Vale Resort, which has been chosen to be the Welsh team’s training base for their home matches at next year’s World Cup.

Warren Gatland’s men will also train at London Irish ahead of their Group A matches against England and Australia at Twickenham.

Celtic Manor and Newport High School will be used by Ireland and Georgia during the tournament.

The final team in Group A – to be decided by a play-off between Russia and Uruguay – will also be based in Newport ahead of their game against Wales on September 20.

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11:55pm Tue 26 Aug 14

Risca1 says...

Thanks Robin - comments are a disgrace if you have any feel for the game you would have made it happen. You are a joke!
Thanks Robin - comments are a disgrace if you have any feel for the game you would have made it happen. You are a joke! Risca1
  • Score: -15

3:53am Wed 27 Aug 14

Welsh kong says...

How is he supposed to force this to happen. Stupid comment!
How is he supposed to force this to happen. Stupid comment! Welsh kong
  • Score: 13

7:14am Wed 27 Aug 14

The People's Republic of Newp says...

Not an erroneous sentiment from McBryde, bur rather one that gets to the heart of how central contracting can and arguably must work. In all other instances / unions where it is employed, the central union has in effect the power to dictate where any given player should play (a point I made on the message board expediting discussion of the latest NGD shirt abomination)....

For months now we have heard that RRW acts as one, that its four members are working to construct a deal that benefits all four parties equally, and yet what has allegedly emerged is a financially inqiuitous and morally indefensible allocation of the funding for central contracts, with 80% to go to either Cardiff or Llanelli, and just 10% (i.e. 1 player) committed for use in Swansea and Newport.

Put simply this is patently unfair. At this admittedly early stage this development - if true - can only go to show why it might have proved advantageous for the entirety of the funding provided by the WRU to have been allocated equally to all four regional outfits, thereby maintaining a level playing field. A spilt in funding across the 'regions' between central contracting and traditional means of distribution (i.e. those operated from 2003 to present) is just perverse and a fudge - one that points to a desperate desire on the part of the Union not to ceded yet more financial control to the regions.

What I fear - and what McBryde also seems to point out - is that Welsh national and regional administrators have taken the easy option and muddied the waters, Personally I couldn't give a fig as to whether CC will aid the performance of Team feckin' Wales, but I am potentially livid if Messrs Hazell and Gareth Lewis have put pen to paper to a deal which will, to all intents and purposes, render the 'regional' incarnation of Newport (and Swansea) as the perennial runt(s) of the funding letter.

Once again, it appears the self-appointed heart of Welsh rugby / those of a myopic 'Welsh is best' sensibilities and those at Capital / Pie Towers are to benefit to far greater an extent than those teams in Swansea and Newport.

Is that the case? And if so, any comments Mr Hazell? What of you Mr Davies, before you in all likelihood toddle off to a cushy number on the WRU? How's about you, good ol' Argus? Some investigative critical journalism to be expected or just the parroting of facts issued by Pravda, er, sorry, the WRU.
Not an erroneous sentiment from McBryde, bur rather one that gets to the heart of how central contracting can and arguably must work. In all other instances / unions where it is employed, the central union has in effect the power to dictate where any given player should play (a point I made on the message board expediting discussion of the latest NGD shirt abomination).... For months now we have heard that RRW acts as one, that its four members are working to construct a deal that benefits all four parties equally, and yet what has allegedly emerged is a financially inqiuitous and morally indefensible allocation of the funding for central contracts, with 80% to go to either Cardiff or Llanelli, and just 10% (i.e. 1 player) committed for use in Swansea and Newport. Put simply this is patently unfair. At this admittedly early stage this development - if true - can only go to show why it might have proved advantageous for the entirety of the funding provided by the WRU to have been allocated equally to all four regional outfits, thereby maintaining a level playing field. A spilt in funding across the 'regions' between central contracting and traditional means of distribution (i.e. those operated from 2003 to present) is just perverse and a fudge - one that points to a desperate desire on the part of the Union not to ceded yet more financial control to the regions. What I fear - and what McBryde also seems to point out - is that Welsh national and regional administrators have taken the easy option and muddied the waters, Personally I couldn't give a fig as to whether CC will aid the performance of Team feckin' Wales, but I am potentially livid if Messrs Hazell and Gareth Lewis have put pen to paper to a deal which will, to all intents and purposes, render the 'regional' incarnation of Newport (and Swansea) as the perennial runt(s) of the funding letter. Once again, it appears the self-appointed heart of Welsh rugby / those of a myopic 'Welsh is best' sensibilities and those at Capital / Pie Towers are to benefit to far greater an extent than those teams in Swansea and Newport. Is that the case? And if so, any comments Mr Hazell? What of you Mr Davies, before you in all likelihood toddle off to a cushy number on the WRU? How's about you, good ol' Argus? Some investigative critical journalism to be expected or just the parroting of facts issued by Pravda, er, sorry, the WRU. The People's Republic of Newp
  • Score: 5

7:17am Wed 27 Aug 14

The People's Republic of Newp says...

Paragraph 4: funding 'litter' not "letter".
Paragraph 4: funding 'litter' not "letter". The People's Republic of Newp
  • Score: 0

7:26am Wed 27 Aug 14

The People's Republic of Newp says...

And for anyone uncertain as to how the CC funding is to be apportioned, please consider the list of (widely) accepted individuals drawn up by the BBC at http://www.bbc.co.uk
/sport/0/rugby-union
/28916918 (highlight, right click and open URL).
And for anyone uncertain as to how the CC funding is to be apportioned, please consider the list of (widely) accepted individuals drawn up by the BBC at http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/rugby-union /28916918 (highlight, right click and open URL). The People's Republic of Newp
  • Score: 1

7:27am Wed 27 Aug 14

The People's Republic of Newp says...

And for anyone uncertain as to how the CC funding is to be apportioned, please consider the list of (widely) accepted individuals drawn up by the BBC at http://www.bbc.co.uk
/sport/0/rugby-union
/28916918 (highlight, right click and open URL).
And for anyone uncertain as to how the CC funding is to be apportioned, please consider the list of (widely) accepted individuals drawn up by the BBC at http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/rugby-union /28916918 (highlight, right click and open URL). The People's Republic of Newp
  • Score: -1

11:58am Wed 27 Aug 14

Game says...

Take it up with the WRU then Robyn, particularly those who are partly responsible for this summer of nonsense. Unless you've been living under a rock, the Regions have been putting on a united front all summer, so it wouldn't have been a good idea to sign a player who the Ospreys probably wanted to re-sign. Unfortunately, Adam Jones isn't as good a player as he once was, where his scrummaging is no better than average now and his performances in the loose are non existant. Whether Harris turns out to be a good signing is a different matter, but I do feel like he will offer more than what Adam currently does (for less money too), even if he doesn't amble from ruck to ruck and occasionally lean on a couple.

Just concentrate on your own job (for the boys) Robyn and fix Team Wales' poor lineout.
Take it up with the WRU then Robyn, particularly those who are partly responsible for this summer of nonsense. Unless you've been living under a rock, the Regions have been putting on a united front all summer, so it wouldn't have been a good idea to sign a player who the Ospreys probably wanted to re-sign. Unfortunately, Adam Jones isn't as good a player as he once was, where his scrummaging is no better than average now and his performances in the loose are non existant. Whether Harris turns out to be a good signing is a different matter, but I do feel like he will offer more than what Adam currently does (for less money too), even if he doesn't amble from ruck to ruck and occasionally lean on a couple. Just concentrate on your own job (for the boys) Robyn and fix Team Wales' poor lineout. Game
  • Score: 2

7:01pm Wed 27 Aug 14

newport15 says...

rather have a good s african who plays week in week out than adam jones who would play half a dozen or so games outside of the autumn and 6 nations windows
rather have a good s african who plays week in week out than adam jones who would play half a dozen or so games outside of the autumn and 6 nations windows newport15
  • Score: 3

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